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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting fact). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, it.
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February 13 | 1 | |
February 16 | 1 | 1 |
February 20 | 1 | |
February 23 | 1 | |
February 25 | 3 | |
February 26 | 1 | |
February 28 | 1 | |
March 7 | 2 | |
March 8 | 1 | |
March 9 | 2 | |
March 10 | 1 | |
March 12 | 2 | |
March 15 | 1 | |
March 16 | 2 | |
March 19 | 2 | 2 |
March 21 | 2 | 2 |
March 22 | 1 | |
March 23 | 3 | 1 |
March 24 | 15 | 10 |
March 25 | 8 | 5 |
March 26 | 9 | 8 |
March 27 | 7 | 6 |
March 28 | 9 | 8 |
March 29 | 8 | 6 |
March 30 | 7 | 6 |
March 31 | 10 | 10 |
April 1 | 8 | 6 |
April 2 | 14 | 10 |
April 3 | 8 | 6 |
April 4 | 6 | 4 |
April 5 | 10 | 8 |
April 6 | 7 | 3 |
April 7 | 5 | 3 |
April 8 | 14 | 10 |
April 9 | 12 | 6 |
April 10 | 1 | |
April 11 | 8 | |
April 12 | 4 | |
April 13 | 7 | |
April 14 | 5 | |
April 15 | 2 | |
April 16 | 4 | |
April 17 | 3 | |
April 18 | 8 | |
April 19 | 4 | |
April 20 | 1 | |
Total | 232 | 121 |
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Instructions for nominators
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Frequently asked questions
[edit]How do I write an interesting hook?
Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.
When will my nomination be reviewed?
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Instructions for reviewers
[edit]Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.
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Advanced procedures
[edit]How to promote an accepted hook
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How to remove a rejected hook
[edit]- Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
[edit]- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
How to move a nomination subpage to a new name
[edit]- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations
[edit]Older nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on February 13
[edit]Sequoites dakotensis
- ... that in 1935, when Sequoites dakotensis (pictured) was first described as a member of the genus Sequoia, it was common for such species to be known only by their fossilized cones?
- Source: Brown, Roland W. (October 15, 1935). "Some fossil conifers from Maryland and North Dakota". Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences. 25 (10): 441-450. JSTOR 24530142.
Pbritti (talk) 05:12, 13 February 2025 (UTC).
- This is currently at the wrong taxonomic placement, see here and the affinity is uncertain as of 2002 [1]--Kevmin § 16:09, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: Those are helpful sources and will be utilized to further improve the article. Regarding the wrong taxonomic placement, I'm seeing Sequoiites dakotensis, though this seems to be the use of an accepted alternative name for early examples in the genus Sequoia. Am I mistaken here? This is not my area of expertise, so I will be wholly deferring to your judgement. Thanks for digging those sources up! ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:03, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- A 2014 North America Research Group publication appears to agree with the Sequoia classification of Sequoia dakotensis as Sequoia. So the 2002 paper is contradicted by a more recent publication https://propagationnation.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Lowe2014_GeologicHistoryGiantSequoia.pdf --Bubblesorg (talk) 18:19, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: Sequoites is not an alternative name for Sequoia, it is a fossil genus name, and currently the species is still placed in it by the Internation Fossil Plant Names Index overseen by paleobotanist Alexander B. Doweld. @Bubblesorg: NARG (North America Research Group) is an ameture fossil club in the Pacific North West, it does not qualify as a reliable source for wikipedia--Kevmin § 14:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Counter, the NARG is made up of reliable advisors. Gary D. Lowe is indeed a real specialist in redwood trees and has many more reliable papers. Also, NARG thing was cited by a peer reviewed paper-https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10806-024-09942-0.
- @Kevmin and Bubblesorg: While I am familiar with amateur botanists writing reliable sources, I am going to defer to peer review publications and a taxonomic database on this. I have moved the page and made changes to indicate that the currently accepted name is Sequoites dakotensis and that the status of the plant is uncertain. I don't know how to fix the taxonomic infobox so that the genus Sequoites functions, but I can give that a shot tonight. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:00, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Gary D. Lowe is not a amateur botanist, he is a real specialist. Also not, do not move the thing. It is not the accepted name. There is still a link for Sequoia dakotensis (https://www.ifpni.org/species.htm?id=C5C500AA-BA29-4A36-B914-5696D1B33A65). Please do not move anything around. I just reversed the change. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:03, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin and Bubblesorg: While I am familiar with amateur botanists writing reliable sources, I am going to defer to peer review publications and a taxonomic database on this. I have moved the page and made changes to indicate that the currently accepted name is Sequoites dakotensis and that the status of the plant is uncertain. I don't know how to fix the taxonomic infobox so that the genus Sequoites functions, but I can give that a shot tonight. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:00, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Counter, the NARG is made up of reliable advisors. Gary D. Lowe is indeed a real specialist in redwood trees and has many more reliable papers. Also, NARG thing was cited by a peer reviewed paper-https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10806-024-09942-0.
- @Pbritti: Sequoites is not an alternative name for Sequoia, it is a fossil genus name, and currently the species is still placed in it by the Internation Fossil Plant Names Index overseen by paleobotanist Alexander B. Doweld. @Bubblesorg: NARG (North America Research Group) is an ameture fossil club in the Pacific North West, it does not qualify as a reliable source for wikipedia--Kevmin § 14:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- A 2014 North America Research Group publication appears to agree with the Sequoia classification of Sequoia dakotensis as Sequoia. So the 2002 paper is contradicted by a more recent publication https://propagationnation.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Lowe2014_GeologicHistoryGiantSequoia.pdf --Bubblesorg (talk) 18:19, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: Those are helpful sources and will be utilized to further improve the article. Regarding the wrong taxonomic placement, I'm seeing Sequoiites dakotensis, though this seems to be the use of an accepted alternative name for early examples in the genus Sequoia. Am I mistaken here? This is not my area of expertise, so I will be wholly deferring to your judgement. Thanks for digging those sources up! ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:03, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
He may be a specialist, but a taxonomic authority prefers Sequoites. The link you provided above considers Sequoia dakotensis a synonym of Sequoites dakotensis. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:10, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- The website is just a taxonomic names list, it does not speak to a consensus per say. Also, it does not confirm synonyms here, it just puts this as saying that some authors consider it a synonym or basionym. https://www.ifpni.org/species.htm?id=C5C500AA-BA29-4A36-B914-5696D1B33A65. Bring me papers and books. Actually the Sequoites dakotensis discussion should be separate from this discussion. Sequoites is not the same thing as Sequoia from a paleobotanical sense. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: I was not expecting a long-dead tree to cause such disruption! I'm requesting a stay on this review until the taxonomic issues are sorted out. @Bubblesorg: multiple taxonomic authorities superior to a non-peer-reviewed amateur book reject the Sequoia name. The plant has been reassigned and remains somewhat uncertain, per Kevmin. Cut-and-paste moves are disruptive. We can discuss this further on the talk page. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:24, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- What multiple papers? Most papers either suggest Sequoia or Parataxodium. Only parts of the plant are assigned to Sequoites. You did not have any consensus here to change it. I only used the Gary point to respond to the other person when they questioned the reliability of the source, I am not using it here to keep the name as Sequoia instead of Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Pbritti agreed, we should reach a stable version of the article and correctly cover the taxonomy issue (some authors fully and wrongly ignoring Bell) before we continue the nom here, I'll have to step out from reviewing as I have now added notable information to the article.--Kevmin § 15:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Bubblesorg This discussion needs to be at the article talk page. The IFPNI listing at Sequoia dakotensis specifically links it to Sequoites dakotensis as a jr synonym, and notes it as the older name. I also just added a summary from Kevin Aulenbacks book on the Horseshoe Canyon Formation, where he specifically also uses Sequoites dakotensis, connects it to PArataxodium and links several other organ taxa into a larger whole plant reconstruction based on foliage, ovulate cone, pollen, and pollen cone morphology. All that we now seem to be missing is a formal paper making the official moves and synonymies.--Kevmin § 15:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- He linked it to many genera not just Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:40, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Question, does the Saurian field guide count as a reliable source? Probably not. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:49, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- He linked it to many genera not just Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:40, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- What multiple papers? Most papers either suggest Sequoia or Parataxodium. Only parts of the plant are assigned to Sequoites. You did not have any consensus here to change it. I only used the Gary point to respond to the other person when they questioned the reliability of the source, I am not using it here to keep the name as Sequoia instead of Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
new reviewer needed as I have substantially added and edited the article now, also the page move of the nomination here is creating editing access issues wit the nomination templates.-Kevmin § 15:46, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Not seeing an actual review here, so I'll take it once I've eaten.--Launchballer 15:04, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
@Pbritti, Bubblesorg, and Kevmin: Long enough, new enough. QPQ done and Earwig is clean. I see nothing deserving of a maintenance template, but I do see that the hook needs an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 15:40, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: I cant seem to find this statement in Brown, do you remember where you found it? If not we should come up with a different hook:
- ALT1 "... that Sequoites dakotensis (pictured) was first described from clay-filled casts and not the original cones?"
- Brown 1935 "These cones are ferruginous mud casts, the solid portion of which represents the spaces, and the cavities the woody substance of origin"--Kevmin § 14:06, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Kevmin: I'm not on the computer I use for most of my editing today. I'll get back to you on this late tomorrow or early Monday UTC when I have access to the JSTOR and the relevant articles. ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:38, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- I support the ALT1 proposal. Once the article move goes through (it looks like a sure thing now), I think we just need a new reviewer and we're good here. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:40, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti, Bubblesorg, and Kevmin: This has been moved, but I don't see ALT1 in the article.--Launchballer 02:15, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Added it. ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti, Bubblesorg, and Kevmin: This has been moved, but I don't see ALT1 in the article.--Launchballer 02:15, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- I support the ALT1 proposal. Once the article move goes through (it looks like a sure thing now), I think we just need a new reviewer and we're good here. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:40, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Kevmin: I'm not on the computer I use for most of my editing today. I'll get back to you on this late tomorrow or early Monday UTC when I have access to the JSTOR and the relevant articles. ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:38, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: I cant seem to find this statement in Brown, do you remember where you found it? If not we should come up with a different hook:
- Maybe it's just me, but ALT1 might be confusing as currently written. What does "cones" mean in this context? I get that it's supposed to refer to conifer cones, but it might not be immediately clear to the reader. Maybe a revised version of ALT1 is needed for clarity purposes? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:01, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 What OTHER cone do you foresee being thought of in this context. To me the sentence is very clear.--Kevmin § 15:13, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm speaking from the perspective of a layperson, and not an expert in botany like you are. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:19, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- That does not answer the question. What other cone comes to your mind. "But what if" is not an acceptable rabbit hole.--Kevmin § 15:22, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe the average reader would not mean what "cones" means in this context? As I said, it's referring to conifer cones, but the layperson who isn't well-versed in biology and know how conifers work may be confused by what "cones" mean (they might instead think of other kinds of cones or cone shapes). The image definitely helps, but without the image, the reader isn't immediately going to understand that the hook is talking about a conifer. Ironically, the original hook was clearer about the context than ALT1. I think adding "fossilized" before "cones" might at least make the context a bit clearer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:40, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Im going to honest, there is a HEAVY use of "might" in your reply, and no evidence that the average reader wont understand "cone" when used in combo with a plant. I do not feel your worry has merit.--Kevmin § 15:46, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Let's try this on for size:
- ALT2 "... that Sequoites dakotensis (pictured) was first described from clay-filled casts and not the original tree cones?"
- While I don't see a need to spell it out for the reader–the vast majority of people will be familiar with what a tree cone is–I think linking it is more than fine to ensure that any confused person might be able to "self rescue", so to speak. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:50, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't understand the strong reaction to the comment when I was just making an observation. I know what a conifer cone is and even I had confusion when I first read the hook. It's a lot more confusing without the image (and it doesn't help that, with the discussion being long, the proposed hook is already quite down in this page). I don't think ALT2 solves my concern: it might be better to add "coniferous" before the subject, or at least add "fossilized" somewhere. Given possible confusion, if we do run that hook, it would be best that it run with the image as it could be confusing otherwise. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:23, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Im going to honest, there is a HEAVY use of "might" in your reply, and no evidence that the average reader wont understand "cone" when used in combo with a plant. I do not feel your worry has merit.--Kevmin § 15:46, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe the average reader would not mean what "cones" means in this context? As I said, it's referring to conifer cones, but the layperson who isn't well-versed in biology and know how conifers work may be confused by what "cones" mean (they might instead think of other kinds of cones or cone shapes). The image definitely helps, but without the image, the reader isn't immediately going to understand that the hook is talking about a conifer. Ironically, the original hook was clearer about the context than ALT1. I think adding "fossilized" before "cones" might at least make the context a bit clearer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:40, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- That does not answer the question. What other cone comes to your mind. "But what if" is not an acceptable rabbit hole.--Kevmin § 15:22, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm speaking from the perspective of a layperson, and not an expert in botany like you are. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:19, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 What OTHER cone do you foresee being thought of in this context. To me the sentence is very clear.--Kevmin § 15:13, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Does ALT2 look better now? I hope I didn't come off as curt earlier. ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:42, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- I think ALT2 is okay. And apologies Pbritti, my response was directed towards Kevmin rather than you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:04, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
As I have no idea why ALT2 is interesting, I don't see how it meets WP:DYKINT, and this is past WP:DYKTIMEOUT.--Launchballer 21:53, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I am more than a bit frustrated by this outcome. I'm especially frustrated by the decision to do this when the hold-up was the result of an overly long wait for a move discussion to be closed followed by its rejection in a string of rapid-fire DYKTIMEOUTs. I understand the flexibility of the discretion here, but I don't believe this was the appropriate outcome. ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:23, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- To clarify, I appreciate your work in this area. I'm just frustrated with being told a hook is ok only for it to get rejected on subjective grounds a few days later after months of waiting. ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:38, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, I disagree that the hook is uninteresting. My issue was mainly about the wording of "cones" but I didn't actually think the hook failed DYKINT. Others may have a different opinion, of course. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:25, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- To clarify, I appreciate your work in this area. I'm just frustrated with being told a hook is ok only for it to get rejected on subjective grounds a few days later after months of waiting. ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:38, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I am more than a bit frustrated by this outcome. I'm especially frustrated by the decision to do this when the hold-up was the result of an overly long wait for a move discussion to be closed followed by its rejection in a string of rapid-fire DYKTIMEOUTs. I understand the flexibility of the discretion here, but I don't believe this was the appropriate outcome. ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:23, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- I think ALT2 is okay. And apologies Pbritti, my response was directed towards Kevmin rather than you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:04, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 20
[edit]Jorge Munoz (American football)
... that Jorge Munoz, who once mentored Michael Desormeaux, is now an assistant on Desormeaux's coaching staff at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette?Source: [1][2]ALT1: ... that, in two years of college football at Southwestern College in California, Jorge Munoz "rewrote virtually all of Southwestern's offensive record book"?Source: [3]- Reviewed:
JTtheOG (talk) 09:11, 21 February 2025 (UTC).
Full review to follow, but I suggest dropping all hooks except for maybe ALT1. ALT2 isn't that unusual, and the others only appeal to college football fans (a minority outside of the US, even in countries where American football has a following). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:42, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- Also pinging BeanieFan11 for possible hook suggestions as ALT1 seems marginally interesting to me at best. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- From a quick glance (looking at the ALT0 hook), maybe something like ALT2: ... that American football coach Jorge Munoz is an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've modified it to say "American football" instead for the benefit of our non-North American readership. Pinging JTtheOG for their thoughts on the new hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- I definitely agree that BeanieFan11's suggestion is easier to understand than my original hook. JTtheOG (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11 and JTtheOG: Thanks! Just one last thing. The current wording could be challenged by other editors per WP:DYKHOOK (the "unlikely to change" criterion). It's true now, but there's a chance it could change before promotion/running. A more future-proof wording may be needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:01, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2b:... that American football coach Jorge Munoz served as an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- That looks great to me. Would it be considered bad form to do a piped link to Desormeaux? JTtheOG (talk) 07:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- It's optional. Ideally we try to avoid too many blue links in a hook to prevent viewership diversion, but it might not be harmful in this case. I'll leave it to you, and if there are any objections those can be sorted out in prep. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, I am fine with omitting the additional link. I suppose readers may click on the Munoz link or the reference for more information. JTtheOG (talk) 19:44, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- It's optional. Ideally we try to avoid too many blue links in a hook to prevent viewership diversion, but it might not be harmful in this case. I'll leave it to you, and if there are any objections those can be sorted out in prep. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- That looks great to me. Would it be considered bad form to do a piped link to Desormeaux? JTtheOG (talk) 07:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2b:... that American football coach Jorge Munoz served as an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11 and JTtheOG: Thanks! Just one last thing. The current wording could be challenged by other editors per WP:DYKHOOK (the "unlikely to change" criterion). It's true now, but there's a chance it could change before promotion/running. A more future-proof wording may be needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:01, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- I definitely agree that BeanieFan11's suggestion is easier to understand than my original hook. JTtheOG (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've modified it to say "American football" instead for the benefit of our non-North American readership. Pinging JTtheOG for their thoughts on the new hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- From a quick glance (looking at the ALT0 hook), maybe something like ALT2: ... that American football coach Jorge Munoz is an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Also pinging BeanieFan11 for possible hook suggestions as ALT1 seems marginally interesting to me at best. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! I was originally going to review this myself, but the article is pretty dense so that might be a bit tough, so I'll leave the full review to another editor. I've struck all the other proposals, leaving just the most recent wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:17, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate your help, as this is my first DYK nom. JTtheOG (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
This article, created on 21 Feb, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio problems. However, JTtheOG Narutolovehinata5 I can't find the hook about Desormeaux (ALT2) in the article. It says
Desormeaux was brought on as an assistant
, but nothing abt Munoz being an assistant to Desormeaux. Tenpop421 (talk) 14:13, 13 March 2025 (UTC)- Hello, thank you for taking a look at this. The first source (The Athletic) identifies: 1. Desormeaux as having inherited the Louisiana head coach position from Billy Napier and 2. Munoz as being Louisiana's "new associate head coach and tight ends coach", both of which are assistant positions under a head coach on a staff. I should probably remove the quote from the ref, since you've correctly shown that it does not completely verify the claim. JTtheOG (talk) 19:21, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- @JTtheOG: Thanks for the response, which admittedly goes over my head a little (I'm not awfully familiar with American football). Per WP:DYKHOOK, the hook has to be clearly in the article and with a citation at the end of the sentence. Can you make it obvious somewhere in the page, with citations? Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 17:19, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, thank you for taking a look at this. The first source (The Athletic) identifies: 1. Desormeaux as having inherited the Louisiana head coach position from Billy Napier and 2. Munoz as being Louisiana's "new associate head coach and tight ends coach", both of which are assistant positions under a head coach on a staff. I should probably remove the quote from the ref, since you've correctly shown that it does not completely verify the claim. JTtheOG (talk) 19:21, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate your help, as this is my first DYK nom. JTtheOG (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
@JTtheOG:What's the status of this nomination?
- @JTtheOG: Fixed ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:45, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Not JTtheOG, but it seems all verified to me. We've got
In his first season at the school, Munoz helped the team set program records for total offense (5,390 yards), passing offense (3,503 yards), and touchdowns (54) under head coach Rickey Bustle as quarterback Michael Desormeaux won the Sun Belt Offensive Player of the Year award
and thenIn 2022, Munoz was named associate head coach and tight ends coach at Louisiana (previously Louisiana–Lafayette) under head coach Michael Desormeaux, who called Munoz "one of the key building blocks in the history of the Louisiana football program". He mentored Desormeaux as his quarterbacks coach at Louisiana and brought him onto the Ragin' Cajun coaching staff during his stint as offensive coordinator in 2016.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:51, 11 April 2025 (UTC)- My apologies; I tend to fall into rabbit holes on here sometimes and leave things pending. I've now removed the quotes from the sources. @Tenpop421: Do you mean the exact wording in the hook should be incorporated into the article? JTtheOG (talk) 03:01, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Not JTtheOG, but it seems all verified to me. We've got
- @JTtheOG: Fixed ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:45, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Miller, Brody (May 29, 2022). "Louisiana football has reached new heights, but plenty of upside remains for Ragin' Cajuns". The Athletic. Archived from the original on February 21, 2025.
- ^ "UL's Munoz promoted to offensive coordinator". The Daily Advertiser. February 5, 2016.
- ^ Brents, Phillip (September 10, 1994). "Apaches are at bottom looking up". The Star-News. p. A6 – via Newspapers.com.
Articles created/expanded on February 23
[edit]Accomplishment of Fudanshi Bartender
- ... that the Japanese live-action television drama adaptation of Accomplishment of Fudanshi Bartender was first broadcast in Taiwan before being broadcast in its home country?
- Source: Shūkan TV Guide (link): ドラマは、なる粉氏の同名コミックを原作に映像化され、2021年12月に台湾で先行放送された。
lullabying (talk) 05:00, 25 February 2025 (UTC).
This article, created on 23 February, is long enough, new enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio issues. QPQ done. @Lullabying: This hook isn't very interesting (to me, at least). Did you have any others in mind? Tenpop421 (talk) 14:18, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'll try my best, but this is all that I can find for now, as coverage on this series is limited. lullabying (talk) 04:51, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- The hook is more than adequate IMO. If everything checks out and the hook conforms to all the requirements, the DYK should not be held up any further. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:32, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @P199: I just don't see what's interesting about a Japanese show being broadcast in Taiwan first, but I'll move this forward if you could explain your perspective. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 13:48, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I agree it is not the most exciting hook, but adequate. We just can't expect every hook to be amazing, especially if the article's topic is rather bland. But we should keep in mind the main principle of DYK: "we want people to see the new articles our volunteers have put time and effort into crafting." -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:00, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @P199: There's no rush. This is a recent nom, and if nothing turns up, we can run with ALTO. We want people to see the new articles, and an interesting hook serves that purpose. Tenpop421 (talk) 14:35, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Lullabying, P199, and Tenpop421: Considering the nomination will time out in a week, actually we do need to rush a resolution for this nomination sooner or later. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:38, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- The original objection was: "This hook isn't very interesting (to me, at least)." As I already said, the hook is more than adequate, so as far as I'm concerned, it has passed already. But I didn't do a full review, unlike User:Tenpop421, so they need to give the final thumbs-up. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:23, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what other hook I could come up with. Any suggestions? lullabying (talk) 04:37, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- The original objection was: "This hook isn't very interesting (to me, at least)." As I already said, the hook is more than adequate, so as far as I'm concerned, it has passed already. But I didn't do a full review, unlike User:Tenpop421, so they need to give the final thumbs-up. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:23, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Lullabying, P199, and Tenpop421: Considering the nomination will time out in a week, actually we do need to rush a resolution for this nomination sooner or later. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:38, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @P199: There's no rush. This is a recent nom, and if nothing turns up, we can run with ALTO. We want people to see the new articles, and an interesting hook serves that purpose. Tenpop421 (talk) 14:35, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I agree it is not the most exciting hook, but adequate. We just can't expect every hook to be amazing, especially if the article's topic is rather bland. But we should keep in mind the main principle of DYK: "we want people to see the new articles our volunteers have put time and effort into crafting." -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:00, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @P199: I just don't see what's interesting about a Japanese show being broadcast in Taiwan first, but I'll move this forward if you could explain your perspective. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 13:48, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 25
[edit]Inchnabobart
- ... that Prince Harry taught the Queen Mother to say "booyakasha" at Inchnabobart?
- Source: ["At one point I told Gan-Gan about Ali G, the character played by Sacha Baron Cohen. I taught her to say "Booyakasha", showing her how to flick her fingers the way Sacha did. She couldn't grasp it, she had no idea what I was talking about but she had such fun trying to flick and say the word. With every repetition of that word, Booyakasha, she’d shriek which would make everyone else smile. It tickled me, it thrilled me. It made me feel … part of things". Spare (memoir), Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, Penguin Group, 2024, 978-1-78222-191-3, page 79]
No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC).
New enough (nominated within 2 days of creation), long enough (1767 characters). AGF on offline book sources, of which there are several, which one would expect for the subject. Copyvio seems highly unlikely. There are several sentences quoted and cited appropriately from a book by Prince Harry. Tone is neutral. QPQ is done. Hook is attention-getting. It appears in the article and is cited appropriately. Per past discussions on DYK Talk, it is OK for hooks to cite primary sources. Excellent candidate for the quirky slot. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:40, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle and No Swan So Fine: I do not believe that half of the article sourced to Spare are WP:DUE, especially the trivial details of cooking, drinking, teaching catchphrases, and the quotes. Obviously, that is a problem for DYK reasons, as without them the article would be way under the DYK limit; nevertheless, I cannot promote this article in its current state. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:13, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: The details about the building's interior and how the royal family has used the building helps to bring the building to life. Point taken, however, about the footprint of the Prince Harry anecdote relative to the total real estate of the article. To address this, I have split up the overlong paragraph about the royal family's historical use of the property (which didn't really belong with the Prince Harry story about spending time there with his grandfather and great-grandmother). I've also created sections and sub-sections in the rest of the article, re-arranged some of the flow, and added a few more details from the other extensive sources cited in the article in the first place. I respect your personal wish not to promote this article, but hope that another promoter will look at the article more kindly. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:05, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
@No Swan So Fine and Ravenpuff: Having recently had a back-weighted hook sink like a lead balloon at DYK, my proposal is to deliberately front-load this one. I know it doesn't read as "smoothly" as an English sentence, but for DYK hooks, the choppiness can often work in your favour, and the evidence generally points to readers preferring front-weighted hooks because otherwise it's unclear where they are supposed to click. So the revised hook I am proposing is:
- ALT0a:
... that at Inchnabobart, Prince Harry taught the Queen Mother to say "booyakasha"?Cielquiparle (talk) 08:16, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0a:
Reviewer needed to check about the previously raised issues, and also that the revised hook meets the standard hook criteria. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:38, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- I withdraw my ALT0a as I understand now that it does not fit the preferred DYK format. Cielquiparle (talk) 03:47, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
Reviewing... Flibirigit (talk) 14:15, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Please explain the context of the word "shiel". I think most English readers would not be familiar with the word. Google suggests it is Scottish word for Shepherd's hut. If true, could that be wikilinked? Still working on a secondary review. Flibirigit (talk) 14:15, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- The hook only at the moment has a tangential relation to the lodge. It would be nice to have a hook more about the lodge. Some other hook ideas that might work come from these sentences; "The farm at Inchnabobart is the highest cultivated land in the glen", and "Local historian Robert Smith has suggested that Queen Victoria had wished to discourage members of the public from using the bridge as a "back door" into the Balmoral estate." The article looks much improved from the version first review above. It meets basic sourcing requirements, and a find no plagiarism concerns. For ALT0, I will have to AGF on the source. Waiting on a respone from my first question above before approval, and am open to other hooks. Flibirigit (talk) 14:27, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Francisco Mascarenhas (Governor of Macau)
- ... that the first governor of Macau, Francisco Mascarenhas, burned another Portuguese nobleman at the stake in the only known instance of an auto-da-fé at sea?
- Source: Boxer, Fidalgos in the Far East (1948), p. 98: "On the homeward voyage, he 'ordered a gentleman of quality to be burnt to death, after finding him guilty of indulging in the unspeakable sin of sodomy'. This surely must be the only instance of an auto-da-fe at sea! Although the stake was the recognized penalty for this crime, the victim's social standing (he was a fidalgo named Francisco Pereira Pinto) got Dom Francisco into trouble, [...]"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tsuita
_dk (talk) 23:46, 26 February 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Overall: New, long enough, and no paraphrasing issues. Looks GTG. Makeandtoss (talk) 17:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
@Makeandtoss and Underbar dk: there is a discrepancy between the certainty of the hook and the source, which by stating "This surely must be the only instance..." does not make it certain. Is better sourcing available? See the last sentence of WP:DYKDEFINITE for why it is necessary. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:18, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Would it be fine if I added "according to historian C. R. Boxer?" to the hook? _dk (talk) 21:05, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Probably, although that may make excessively long.~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:01, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry I forgot about this nom. I've come up with another hook that's hopefully less problematic:
- ALT2: ... that the first governor of Macau Francisco Mascarenhas took the Fortaleza do Monte as the governor's residence from the Jesuits through a ruse?
- Source: Boxer, Fidalgos in the Far East (1948), p. 97: "Modern repairs to the venerable citadel of Saint Paul [the Fortaleza do Monte] have disclosed the blocked-up postern gate. A perusal of Dom Francisco's papers at Evora, shows that the Jesuits retained possession of the citadel after the revolt, and the he evicted them three months later by a ruse at an opportune moment."
Abseil rack
- ... that abseil racks have excellent heat dissipation?
- ALT1: ... that many cavers have used the same type of descender since 1969? Source: http://www.verticalmuseum.com/VerticalDevicesPage/RappelHistory.php
- Reviewed:
Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:26, 28 February 2025 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- The article was first created February 17th, but discounting a one-line stub that was made then it was pubished February 25th. I am not sure if this meets the newness requirement or not.
- Long enough:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
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There is one open WP:CITE tag in the article, but the article is otherwise sourcedAddressed - Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
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Neither hook seems to adequately be cited by the source(s) in question. For ALT0, there seems to be no indication that rappel racks have "excellent" heat dissipation, only that more recent designs have better dissipation than older models that have poor dissipation. For ALT1, I couldn't find this claim in the source. The closest seems to be this: "Before 1956, people suffered with body rappels. In the next decade, many new ideas appeared. Since 1966, there has been no real progress in rappelling."Sourcing issued addressed for ALT2.
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: The article is interesting, but requires more work before it is eligible for WP:DYK. After that, I am inclined to request a second opinion on whether or not the article is eligible to be submitted for DYK given the date the article was first created. --Sky Harbor (talk) 10:22, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
@Sky Harbor:I think that I have corrected the problems now. If possible I would like to change the hook to "some cavers prefer the rappel rack for it's excellent heat dissipation?" Kingsmasher678 (talk) 16:14, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, Kingsmasher678. I see the open WP:CITE tag has been addressed, which is great, but for your proposed hook (ALT2), where in the sources is this indicated so I can vet it? --Sky Harbor (talk) 23:22, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sky Harbor that would be in reference 4. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:12, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I still don't see how the source supports that hook, Kingsmasher678. This is the same source that you used to back up ALT0, and I did not see anything in the source that indicated that rappel racks are preferred for excellent heat dissipation, but I may be reading the source incorrectly. I would appreciate it if you could point me to the specific instance in the source that points to your claim since I can't seem to find it; the source seems to point out how alternatives to rappel racks have poor heat dissipation, as opposed to rappel racks having "excellent" heat dissipation. --Sky Harbor (talk) 22:30, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, I have found another source for this, though I do feel that that is a fair extrapolation from the source provided. The new source should be in place now. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 04:54, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alternatively, change to "above average heat dissipation" which is certainly supported by the sources.Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:06, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- To answer Sky Harbor's question: the article was not eligible as a new article. It does not matter if the original article was created as a short stub: once the article is created, the seven-day count starts ticking. However, it could be accepted as a 5x expansion, as a 5x expansion began on February 25 and was nominated on the 28th. I have no opinion on the rest of the article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:16, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, I don't believe that is correct. I had the article moved from userspace on the 25th. This is explicitly addressed inWP:DYKNEW. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 13:04, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- For some reason it wasn't showing up as such on DYKcheck for me. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:55, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think that's because of the usurpation, Narutolovehinata5. I don't know if the user page was created on the 17th or the 25th, but I'm inclined to believe that the page itself was created on the 17th, then Kingsmasher678 created a userspace page and had the two merged on the 25th. How is that situation addressed in the DYK guidelines?
- The page existed as a redirect, and I created a userspace page on the 17th. I had that page moved to mainspace on the 25th. I had to have a page mover do it so the page editing history from my userspace followed the page. So it was created, as the rules read, on the 25th. Regardless, I expanded 5x anyway, so it's a moot point. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 16:26, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think that's because of the usurpation, Narutolovehinata5. I don't know if the user page was created on the 17th or the 25th, but I'm inclined to believe that the page itself was created on the 17th, then Kingsmasher678 created a userspace page and had the two merged on the 25th. How is that situation addressed in the DYK guidelines?
- For some reason it wasn't showing up as such on DYKcheck for me. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:55, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, I don't believe that is correct. I had the article moved from userspace on the 25th. This is explicitly addressed inWP:DYKNEW. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 13:04, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- To answer Sky Harbor's question: the article was not eligible as a new article. It does not matter if the original article was created as a short stub: once the article is created, the seven-day count starts ticking. However, it could be accepted as a 5x expansion, as a 5x expansion began on February 25 and was nominated on the 28th. I have no opinion on the rest of the article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:16, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- I still don't see how the source supports that hook, Kingsmasher678. This is the same source that you used to back up ALT0, and I did not see anything in the source that indicated that rappel racks are preferred for excellent heat dissipation, but I may be reading the source incorrectly. I would appreciate it if you could point me to the specific instance in the source that points to your claim since I can't seem to find it; the source seems to point out how alternatives to rappel racks have poor heat dissipation, as opposed to rappel racks having "excellent" heat dissipation. --Sky Harbor (talk) 22:30, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sky Harbor that would be in reference 4. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:12, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- As for the review itself, I think the sourcing issue has been resolved so that has been marked accordingly, but the newness issue remains. I think a 5x expansion would work though if the newness guideline hasn't been met. --Sky Harbor (talk) 14:30, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- In cases of usurpation, the rules are silent, but I imagine it's still the original creation date that is considered the actual creation date regardless of any history merges, in which case 5x expansion is really the way to go here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:59, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Given that, and given that the sourcing issue has been resolved, I think this nomination is good to go as a 5x expansion. --Sky Harbor (talk) 01:13, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
Only reference 3 and 5 aren't self-published. Please check for that because it wastes time otherwise. SL93 (talk) 09:25, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- While they are self-published, the vertical museum in paticular is maintained by Dr. Gary Storrik, who has written extensively for the NSS news. He is likely the best informed person in the world when it comes to the history of Single rope technique and its general development. He was also given a certificate of merit by the NSS for this work. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 16:11, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- In cases of usurpation, the rules are silent, but I imagine it's still the original creation date that is considered the actual creation date regardless of any history merges, in which case 5x expansion is really the way to go here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:59, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- As for the review itself, I think the sourcing issue has been resolved so that has been marked accordingly, but the newness issue remains. I think a 5x expansion would work though if the newness guideline hasn't been met. --Sky Harbor (talk) 14:30, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 26
[edit]The World's Biggest Gang Bang III – The Houston 620
... that the participants in "The World's Biggest Gang Bang III" were asked to follow seven rules?ALT1: ... that the participants in "The World's Biggest Gang Bang III" were once described as "the professional, the hopeless and the hopeful"?- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nien-Hsi Yang
Launchballer 10:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC).
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Both hook facts are in the article; ALT1 is AGF because I can't get past the paywall. I have to say, the hook got me to review. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 19:55, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- To any promoter who's looking towards this: make sure you're fine with controversy. I'm noping out for that reason. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:23, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Is it just the subject matter or is there something I need to fix?--Launchballer 13:15, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- The former. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:16, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Is it just the subject matter or is there something I need to fix?--Launchballer 13:15, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
Unpromoted per WT:DYK#Porn hook RoySmith (talk) 11:44, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
@RoySmith: Why did you reject the nomination outright rather than give it a question mark tick for further discussion? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:20, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- It seemed to reflect the consensus at WT:DYK, but if somebody thinks this can be salvaged, I won't object, so adding
. RoySmith (talk) 12:24, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- I took the liberty of retranscluding this at T:TDYK. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I saw two yeses, one yes-with-a-different-hook, one not-for-me-but-DYK-is-not-censored, and the original poster, whose last comment was "keep working on the hook". That's a loose consensus to run at least the nomination, if not the hook. There is a second hook in this already (ALT1) but I can also suggest:
- ALT2: ... that The World's Biggest Gang Bang III was the "Top Selling Release" of 1999?
- ALT3: ... that Houston underwent labiaplasty after filming The World's Biggest Gang Bang III – The Houston 620?
ALT4: ... that preparation for The World's Biggest Gang Bang III involved "a lot of running and a lot of dildos"?--Launchballer 13:05, 8 April 2025 (UTC)ALT5: ... that The World's Biggest Gang Bang III has been compared to "watch[ing] 47 football games on the weekend"?--Launchballer 13:47, 8 April 2025 (UTC)- I struck the ones recently removed from the article.--Launchballer 05:42, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- It seemed to reflect the consensus at WT:DYK, but if somebody thinks this can be salvaged, I won't object, so adding
The above just rotated off WT:DYK and is now at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 205#Porn hook, at which I see a consensus to run this. I suggest one further hook – ALT6: ... that The World's Biggest Gang Bang III was so popular it crashed the server? – and request another reviewer.--Launchballer 14:47, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 28
[edit]Jimena Sánchez (queen)
- ... that King Sancho III of Navarre seized control of León in 1034 and arranged the marriage of his daughter Jimena to its king, Bermudo III?
- Source: Margarita Torres Sevilla and José Miguel Ortega del Río, Kings of the Grail: Tracing the Historica Journey of the Holy Grail from Jerusalem to Spain (Michael O'Mara Books, 2015), p. 100.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Inner Cambodia
- Comment: The source I offer is (a) accessible online, (b) in English and (c) written by experts in medieval Spanish royalty and nobility, so the highly questionable thesis of the book is not, I think, relevant to it as RS.
Srnec (talk) 02:23, 4 March 2025 (UTC).
At a glance everything looks sourced (will do a spotcheck soon enough) but is this hook really interesting? It boils down in my eyes to "a king took power and arranged a marriage" at first glance. I think either making it clear that the king was out of power and adding chronological context would be great, or having another fact from the article as hook - the one that stood out to me in the article was the length of the prose about her tomb - there's probably a good hook to be made in there somewhere. Departure– (talk) 20:59, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: The interesting part was supposed to be that the king arranged the marriage of his own daughter to the man he displaced as king. How about the following as an alternate? Srnec (talk) 20:06, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that by the 13th century, Spanish chroniclers knew neither the correct name nor parentage of Jimena Sánchez, the queen of León from 1035 to 1037?
- Source: Jaime de Salazar y Acha, "Una hija desconocida de Sancho el Mayor, reina de León", Príncipe de Viana, Anejo 8 (1988): 183 and 185: "casi olvidada por la documentación. El error de los cronistas posteriores y su lápida sepulcral en León, han producido el desconocimiento de su auténtica filiación. . . Los cronistas del siglo XIII ... aseveran ... [lo] que es a todas luces erróneo a la vista de la documentación, en cuanto al nombre de la reina ... y los historiadores posteriores, tranquilizados por esta coincidencia, no han vuelto a poner en cuestión la filiación de nuestro personaje."
- ALT2: ... that only a fragment survives of the tomb in the Basilica of San Isidoro belonging to Queen Jimena Sánchez (1035–1037), which once had an effigy and two epitaphs?
- Comment: Could take out "in the Basilica of San Isidoro" and link tomb effigy and epitaph instead.
- @Srnec: I don't speak much Spanish, but Hook 2 (the one I'm looking at) comes out a bit incoherent when translated. From my understanding, it's something along the lines of "Early chroniclers were incorrect about Sanchez's name, but later historians have full confidence as to her parentage". Is this on the path of being right? It nearly verifies the hook, I just want to double check that's what I'm reading. Other than that it's ready to go. Departure– (talk) 13:53, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- I would put it differently. Later chroniclers were incorrect about her name and her father's name, but modern historians are certain about the former and confident about the latter. It was difficult to come up with a wording to express this. A possible rewording below. Srnec (talk) 17:46, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Srnec: I don't speak much Spanish, but Hook 2 (the one I'm looking at) comes out a bit incoherent when translated. From my understanding, it's something along the lines of "Early chroniclers were incorrect about Sanchez's name, but later historians have full confidence as to her parentage". Is this on the path of being right? It nearly verifies the hook, I just want to double check that's what I'm reading. Other than that it's ready to go. Departure– (talk) 13:53, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that both the name of the queen of León from 1035 to 1037 and the identity of her parents had been forgotten by the 13th century, although recorded in contemporary documents?
- Source: Salazar y Acha, p. 189. The document of 1062 refers to "Queen Jimena his [Ferdinand's] sister". The documents of Vermudo III cited in the article call his queen Jimena.
- @Srnec: I'd still go with ALT1. As long as there's an end-of-sentence citation, this is
good to go, as I have no other problems with the article (just change "by" to "in"). Departure– (talk) 17:12, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
Pulled per WT:DYK.--Launchballer 05:13, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: So what is the problem? Srnec (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Srnec, please review Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 205#Jimena Sánchez (queen) to see comments made after your post. You did post there, and wrote
I can understand that the article is hard to parse and will try to fix it.
, but the article hasn't been edited in almost a month. The nomination will time out in about two and a half weeks, so if you wish it to run, you'll need to fix the article sooner rather than later. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:08, 11 April 2025 (UTC)- @BlueMoonset: Is that the problem? Like, is the reason it was pulled that the article itself is not good enough? This is unclear to me and I certainly don't think it is true. Still, I do intend to give a read through and make some tweaks. Srnec (talk) 00:25, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset and Launchballer: I have gone over the article and made some changes. Srnec (talk) 03:13, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging Cielquiparle, who expressed reservations at the discussion referenced above, to see whether their concerns have been addressed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:55, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Srnec: It reads better. A few more requests: 1) Please expand the lede. It is not OK for an article to run on the main page with a one-sentence lede, as it would automatically get tagged for being too short to adequately summarise the article. One or two clearly written sentences may suffice. It seems like a good idea to mention the mistaken identity issue, so that section doesn't come as a surprise. 2) The mistaken identity section is better than before but is still confusing. Is it not possible to tell the story in chronological order? Unclear why it jumps from 12th century to 18th century then back to 13th century. Regardless of how you structure it, try to make it clearer what is going on. The current wording of "Scholars today identify..." is somehow still not entirely convincing. How do they know they are right, and why should we believe them? Cielquiparle (talk) 05:53, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- (1) I have expanded the lead. (2) There is absolutely no question that Vermudo III's queen was named Jimena. Nor that Sancho III had a daughter of that name. The only document that expressly links them is that of 1062/3 that calls her "Queen Jimena, sister of [Ferdinand]". To that may be added the fact that there are no references to a daughter of Count Sancho named Jimena other than the epitaphs, which are certainly later and not contemporary. The first 2 paragraphs under "Tomb and mistaken identity" are really about the tomb. Only the last paragraph is about how later writers invented a queen named Theresa. Srnec (talk) 13:37, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Srnec: It reads better. A few more requests: 1) Please expand the lede. It is not OK for an article to run on the main page with a one-sentence lede, as it would automatically get tagged for being too short to adequately summarise the article. One or two clearly written sentences may suffice. It seems like a good idea to mention the mistaken identity issue, so that section doesn't come as a surprise. 2) The mistaken identity section is better than before but is still confusing. Is it not possible to tell the story in chronological order? Unclear why it jumps from 12th century to 18th century then back to 13th century. Regardless of how you structure it, try to make it clearer what is going on. The current wording of "Scholars today identify..." is somehow still not entirely convincing. How do they know they are right, and why should we believe them? Cielquiparle (talk) 05:53, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging Cielquiparle, who expressed reservations at the discussion referenced above, to see whether their concerns have been addressed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:55, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Srnec, please review Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 205#Jimena Sánchez (queen) to see comments made after your post. You did post there, and wrote
- @Launchballer: So what is the problem? Srnec (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Srnec: I'd still go with ALT1. As long as there's an end-of-sentence citation, this is
Articles created/expanded on March 7
[edit]Remember Monday
- ... that Elizabeth II once asked a future member of the "What the Hell Just Happened?" girlband Remember Monday (pictured) why she was barefoot?
- ALT1: ... that the "What the Hell Just Happened?" girlband Remember Monday (pictured) are set to become the first girlband to represent the BBC at the Eurovision Song Contest since 1999?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Raj Salwan
- Comment: I just expanded Remember Monday to get it over 1,500 characters; What the Hell Just Happened? is almost entirely a driveby nomination. It would be great if this could run on 17 May, which is the date the band are set to perform that song on the Eurovision Song Contest, which is more than six weeks away, so remind me to put in a request at WT:DYK. I'm also aiming to make Holly Hull (ALT0's "a future member") into a GA by then. (I rewrote it in early February after their participation was rumbled, with the expectation that the BBC would announce it properly fairly quickly. They didn't.)
Launchballer 19:19, 14 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: a) Note - Remember Monday was subjected to sock edits. But I presume that user:Ponyo got them all, and am not aware that that would still be a problem for this DYK - people should let me know if I am incorrect on that.b) Because this nomination offers two bolded articles, a second qpq is required (one is required for each nominated article, and only one has been performed as of yet ). c) I prefer the initial hook. d) Earwig found violation to be unlikely and spotchecks did not yield concerns. e) The main hook does not have any ref at the sentence in the article in which the statement is made.
- Raj Salwan is a double nomination. I added a duplicate ref. Also, for what it's worth, I just put in a date request at WT:DYK#Date request and moved and GAN'd Holly-Anne Hull.--Launchballer 09:30, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you - can you point me to the rule that says that a qpq for a double nomination counts for two qpqs? Also, I see that there is now a ref for the barefoot statement, but can you let me know what the applicable text in the ref says? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:297A:9E33:47F1:40D7 (talk) 03:52, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- WP:QPQ says "Where a nomination offers more than one new or expanded article, an article-for-article quid pro quo (QPQ) is required for each nominated article." Both this and Salwan are two articles and one nomination. Also, the source says "Elizabeth II even joked with Hull, then 11, about her not having any shoes on, which was part of her costume.".--Launchballer 12:05, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks - as to the quote, that refers to what I had pointed to above, but what I was looking for was something indicating that a qpq of a dyk with two new or expanded articles counts as two qpqs. I can see a reasonable argument there, but no statement to that effect. If there isn't a statement that supports that, perhaps some editor more experienced than I am might give their opinion. user:schwede66 - do you have a view? Also - perhaps an easy fix to the hook -- the quote you helpfully supplied does not indicate that the queen asked her why she was barefoot. Just that she joked with her about it. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:CCE9:EA6F:E89F:1E6A (talk) 18:12, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies, the correct quote is in this source. I'll add it with the image.--Launchballer 19:58, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- That does support that hook. Thank you. I am still not sure what the answer is to my qpq question above. Do you have a supporting link? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:6D19:C85B:8EDA:E45A (talk) 05:35, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- I consider that the above quote supports my point. I am disinclined to post again at WT:DYK given my date request fell on deaf ears (though you are free to do so yourself), but I can tell you that I've had several recent joint QPQs fly on this basis (Ceechynaa, The Cock Destroyers, Anaïs Gallagher) - perhaps @Jolielover:, @Narutolovehinata5:, or @Crisco 1492: would like to opine.--Launchballer 12:18, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- That does support that hook. Thank you. I am still not sure what the answer is to my qpq question above. Do you have a supporting link? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:6D19:C85B:8EDA:E45A (talk) 05:35, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies, the correct quote is in this source. I'll add it with the image.--Launchballer 19:58, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks - as to the quote, that refers to what I had pointed to above, but what I was looking for was something indicating that a qpq of a dyk with two new or expanded articles counts as two qpqs. I can see a reasonable argument there, but no statement to that effect. If there isn't a statement that supports that, perhaps some editor more experienced than I am might give their opinion. user:schwede66 - do you have a view? Also - perhaps an easy fix to the hook -- the quote you helpfully supplied does not indicate that the queen asked her why she was barefoot. Just that she joked with her about it. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:CCE9:EA6F:E89F:1E6A (talk) 18:12, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- WP:QPQ says "Where a nomination offers more than one new or expanded article, an article-for-article quid pro quo (QPQ) is required for each nominated article." Both this and Salwan are two articles and one nomination. Also, the source says "Elizabeth II even joked with Hull, then 11, about her not having any shoes on, which was part of her costume.".--Launchballer 12:05, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you - can you point me to the rule that says that a qpq for a double nomination counts for two qpqs? Also, I see that there is now a ref for the barefoot statement, but can you let me know what the applicable text in the ref says? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:297A:9E33:47F1:40D7 (talk) 03:52, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I found an image in File:The Jennifer Hudson Show Garcelle Beauvais 1924.webm and have put in a request at the photography workshop.--Launchballer 13:04, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Good find. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:297A:9E33:47F1:40D7 (talk) 04:01, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- To answer the above question regarding QPQs: yes, QPQs are per article, not necessarily per nomination. So for example, if a hook has two bolded articles, that nomination will require two QPQs from the nominator. At the same time, if a reviewer reviews the nomination and thus both articles, they now have two QPQs, which they can use in two nominations (one for each bolded article). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:11, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
I got fed up of waiting for my photography request to go through, so I added the video and added the source while I was at it. I remain of the view that this should run on 17 May despite my ignored WT:DYK request (or at the very least, not until I've taken Holly-Anne Hull through a GA review circle, which I will do once I've finished with Talk:WTLV/GA1).--Launchballer 14:03, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Holly-Anne Hull is currently being reviewed. As Vivian Wilson was quickfailed and not actually reviewed, does its QPQ count as used?--Launchballer 11:44, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- The "rule" that claimed that quickfail reviews do not count as QPQs was removed recently per a WT:DYK discussion, so absent any evidence to the contrary, quickfails should count as a QPQ like any other full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies for not being clear. My Sobrevivendo no Inferno QPQ, which I used for Wilson, could I use it for Hull or not?--Launchballer 11:51, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Per WP:QPQ, QPQs can only be used for one nomination regardless of their outcome. So no: even if Wilson was quickfailed, the QPQ used for that cannot be re-used. You will need to provide a new QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:06, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Point taken; Hull is now a GA and my QPQ is Maharani (song).
- ALT2: ... that Elizabeth II once asked a future member of the "What the Hell Just Happened?" girlband Remember Monday (pictured) why she was barefoot? (This is no longer in Remember Monday as it technically violated WP:INDISCRIMINATE but is in Hull's article.)--Launchballer 14:59, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Per WP:QPQ, QPQs can only be used for one nomination regardless of their outcome. So no: even if Wilson was quickfailed, the QPQ used for that cannot be re-used. You will need to provide a new QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:06, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies for not being clear. My Sobrevivendo no Inferno QPQ, which I used for Wilson, could I use it for Hull or not?--Launchballer 11:51, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- The "rule" that claimed that quickfail reviews do not count as QPQs was removed recently per a WT:DYK discussion, so absent any evidence to the contrary, quickfails should count as a QPQ like any other full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Holly-Anne Hull is currently being reviewed. As Vivian Wilson was quickfailed and not actually reviewed, does its QPQ count as used?--Launchballer 11:44, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
Full review needed for Hull's article.--Launchballer 19:50, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also, a new image was recently uploaded to Commons, so I suggest using it in the nom; could crop further to just Hull and move the marker.--Launchballer 09:41, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks @Procrastineur49:. ALT2a: ... that Elizabeth II once asked a future member (pictured) of the "What the Hell Just Happened?" girlband Remember Monday why she was barefoot?--Launchballer 22:26, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
James Nwoye Adichie
- ... that
James Nwoye Adichie was the first person to hold a Doctor of Philosophy degree in statistics in Nigeria?Source: https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/
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Overall: @SafariScribe: The article is new enough and long enough. No copyvio detected. QPQ done. The hook is interesting but I don't see in the source where it says he was the first person in Nigeria to have a PhD in statistics? The source says he was "the second person to obtain a PhD degree in Statistics from the University of California and the first Nigerian to do so." The source makes it sound like he was first Nigerian to get a PhD in statistics specifically from that college. Thoughts? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:04, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- IIRC "first to do X as a Y" hooks are generally frowned upon in the DYK community. Bremps... 15:55, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that James Nwoye Adichie was the first Nigerian to obtain a Doctor of Philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley?Source: https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/- @WikiOriginal-9, I have fixed the hook. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:06, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- How about ... that Nigerian James Nwoye Adichie was the second person to obtain a Doctor of Philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley? A Nigerian being the second overall person to get a PhD in statistics from UC Berkeley seems more interesting, assuming the source is correct... (WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA) ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:11, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9, I have fixed the hook. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:06, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Nigerian James Nwoye Adichie was the second person to obtain a Doctor of Philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley? Source: https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:21, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- WikiOriginal-9? done.Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:23, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- That looks good. I guess I'll assume good faith on that source. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:14, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- SafariScribe, WikiOriginal-9 Take a look at page 6 line 22 https://www.stat.rice.edu/~tsn4867/all_files/IMS_VOLUME/IMS%20VOLUME/IMS_template.pdf. Does it provide any context? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. That does cast some doubt on the claim above. Maybe we could do one of the below two hooks instead:
- SafariScribe, WikiOriginal-9 Take a look at page 6 line 22 https://www.stat.rice.edu/~tsn4867/all_files/IMS_VOLUME/IMS%20VOLUME/IMS_template.pdf. Does it provide any context? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- That looks good. I guess I'll assume good faith on that source. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:14, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- WikiOriginal-9? done.Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:23, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that in 1966, James Nwoye Adichie became the first Nigerian to obtain a Doctor of Philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley?
- ALT4: ... that Nigerian academic James Nwoye Adichie was kidnapped in 2015?
I know Bremps left that comment above about "first to do X as a Y" hooks but I still think it's kind of interesting. Others can disagree if they want. Also, were there anymore details on his kidnapping or no? The article doesn't explain why he was kidnapped. Thanks, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:34, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 8
[edit]J. C. Walter, Jr.
- ... that 9 days after his heart transplant, J. C. Walter, Jr. merged his company Houston Oil & Minerals with Tenneco, retired to his ranch; then founded Walter Oil & Gas three weeks later?
- Source: Walter Oil & Gas history: “On April 1, 1981 he underwent heart surgery. Nine days later, Joe concluded a merger with Tenneco and retired to his ranch in Brownwood, Texas, a retirement that lasted all of three weeks.”
- ALT0:... that 9 days after his heart transplant, J. C. Walter, Jr. merged his company Houston Oil & Minerals with Tenneco, then retired to his ranch, and less than 2 months later founded Walter Oil & Gas?
- Sources: (1)Walter Oil & Gas history: “On April 1, 1981 he underwent heart surgery. Nine days later, Joe concluded a merger with Tenneco and retired to his ranch in Brownwood, Texas, a retirement that lasted all of three weeks.” and (2)Bloomberg Company Profile: Walter Oil & Gas: "Walter Oil & Gas Corp ; SUB-INDUSTRY. Oil & Gas Services & Equip ; INCORPORATED. 05/28/1981 ; ADDRESS. 1100 Louisiana Street Suite 200 Houston, TX 77002 United"
- ALT1: ... that that after his heart transplant, J. C. Walter, Jr. started two oil and gas companies, Walter Oil & Gas and Walter International, which together found the first commercial gas in Equatorial Guinea? Source: Same as above: "“…Walter International….with Walter Oil & Gas as a partner, they developed the offshore Alba Field, with reserves in excess of 1 Billion barrels of oil equivalent, and representing the first commercial hydrocarbon field developed in the west African country of Equatorial Guiana [sic].”
- ALT2: ... that J. C. Walter, Jr. started his successful oil and gas exploration company, Walter Oil & Gas in the midst of the 1980s oil downturn? Source: Same as above: "Joe organized Walter Oil & Gas in 1981….. With a small staff, the majority of which were too young and inexperienced to appreciate the risk of joining a startup E&P during single digit oil prices.”
- ALT3: ... that J. C. Walter, Jr., founder of Walter Oil & Gas, identified a new extinct species of brachiopod, Derbyia sulcata Walter, while he was a college student? Source: Paleo Database “ Derbyia sulcata was named by Walter (1953)”, and Texas ScholarWorks: “…[he] identified Permian invertebrates, among which was Derbya sulcata Walter. n. sp.”
- Reviewed:
— ERcheck (talk) 19:37, 8 March 2025 (UTC).
This article, created on 7 March, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced (one uncited sentence which is just a summary of what's below), and presentable. No QPQ needed. No copyvio issues. ALT0 is the most interesting. It is cited, in article, and the citation checks out. GTG. Tenpop421 (talk) 15:10, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Reopening per WT:DYK.--Launchballer 18:47, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer:: Added another reference (Bloomberg) that gives the founding date of Walter Oil & Gas. So, definitely within 2 months of his heart surgery. I added ALT0 at the top as a more verifiable time frame. In addition, updated the article with that info and reference. — ERcheck (talk) 13:10, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Tenpop421: The ALT0 hook is revised to address the issues discussed in the queue; in addition, the article has had a slight revision to complete the loop. Ready for a revisit now. — ERcheck (talk) 16:07, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 9
[edit]Toledo Progressive Party
- ... that the Toledo Progressive Party from southern Belize attended two sessions of the United Nations General Assembly 4th Committee, reportedly sponsored by the Guatemalan government?
Soman (talk) 16:03, 9 March 2025 (UTC).
Article is new enough, long enough, and cited to reliable sources throughout. No copyright violations detected. QPQ has been done. Hook fact is verifiable, but is dreadfully dull. Attending a United Nations session/event isn't particularly surprising or interesting. UN events around the world routinely attract a global audience of diplomats, political leaders, activists, educators, academics, and even on occasion celebrities. This is not unusual in any way, or surprising. It would be like saying scientist goes to science conference, and in this case is literally political party attends committee meeting (which is what politicians and political activists routinely do). We need a different and more interesting hook. Please ping me when a new hook is proposed.4meter4 (talk) 16:32, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think you're missing the bigger picture here. The 4th Committee is the UN Committee on decolonization, which oversaw many of the transfers from European colonial powers to independent states. Belize as of 1977-1978 was still a British colony, that was at stake was whether Belize would remain a colony, become an independent state or be annexed by Guatemala. The fact that the Guatemalan government sponsored a proxy group in southern Belize, to legitimize its territorial claims, is interesting. There could be other ways to phrase the hook, but this is the key factoid of relevance here. --Soman (talk) 10:27, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Soman Sorry about the delayed response. Please ping me when you respond so I know you have replied. In response to your thoughts, I take your point about context. However, the geopolitical context is not at all clear in the hook fact and isn't likely to become clear to a wider audience within a short hook format. If you have to explain the context to get why something is hooky (which you would in this case) than you have failed the WP:DYKINT criteria. This hook is only interesting if one has specialized knowledge about the British colonial empire's activities in South/Central America, the history of Belize and its relationship to Guatemala as well as knowledge about the UN's 4th Committee, and within the specific time period of international politics in 1977-1978. This is way too complicated for the general reader to interpret, and the average person (ie someone like myself) isn't going to connect those dots outside of the article where it can be contextualized. You've got to pick a hook that's interesting and understandable without someone being familiar with the topic area and its context. I'm not seeing how this idea is workable even with modifications, its way too complicated and requires too much background knowledge to be usable. Find something else, because this isn't going to work.4meter4 (talk) 21:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 "... that in the years leading up to the independence of Belize, the Guatemalan government sponsored a small party to legitimize its territorial claims?" --Soman (talk) 10:38, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- @4meter4: Pinging regarding ALT1. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:39, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 I like this alt hook, but I'd like a second opinion from you as to whether or not this is ok with the article's current text. I'm not sure whether to approve this or not. The hook fact is not stated outright with this language in the article text with a supporting inline citation. However, the hook fact is there if the reader were to summarize the gist of the article. My inclination would be to reject this and have the editor state this fact outright with an inline citation, but one could argue the hook fact is already extant in the article in a big picture way across multiple sentences and in different words. What is your read on this?4meter4 (talk) 14:20, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @4meter4: Pinging regarding ALT1. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:39, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 "... that in the years leading up to the independence of Belize, the Guatemalan government sponsored a small party to legitimize its territorial claims?" --Soman (talk) 10:38, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Soman Sorry about the delayed response. Please ping me when you respond so I know you have replied. In response to your thoughts, I take your point about context. However, the geopolitical context is not at all clear in the hook fact and isn't likely to become clear to a wider audience within a short hook format. If you have to explain the context to get why something is hooky (which you would in this case) than you have failed the WP:DYKINT criteria. This hook is only interesting if one has specialized knowledge about the British colonial empire's activities in South/Central America, the history of Belize and its relationship to Guatemala as well as knowledge about the UN's 4th Committee, and within the specific time period of international politics in 1977-1978. This is way too complicated for the general reader to interpret, and the average person (ie someone like myself) isn't going to connect those dots outside of the article where it can be contextualized. You've got to pick a hook that's interesting and understandable without someone being familiar with the topic area and its context. I'm not seeing how this idea is workable even with modifications, its way too complicated and requires too much background knowledge to be usable. Find something else, because this isn't going to work.4meter4 (talk) 21:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
Lope Martín
- ... that for having become the first pilot to complete the west–east return voyage from Asia to the Americas, Lope Martín was ordered to be executed?
- Source: For first voyage: Reséndez 2022, p. 157; Sharp 1961, p. 55.
- ALT1: ... that Lope Martín's reward for having become the first pilot to complete the west–east return voyage from Asia to the Americas was execution? Source: For first voyage: Reséndez 2022, p. 157; Sharp 1961, p. 55.
For execution: Reséndez 2022, p. 170. - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mount Leona Fire
- ALT1: ... that Lope Martín's reward for having become the first pilot to complete the west–east return voyage from Asia to the Americas was execution? Source: For first voyage: Reséndez 2022, p. 157; Sharp 1961, p. 55.
Kimikel (talk) 15:52, 9 March 2025 (UTC).
Long enough, new enough, QPQ done, earwig flags nothing Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:48, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
This has been pulled from the queue per Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Queue 1 (12 April 00:00). SL93 (talk) 03:55, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
Proposing new hooks. Sorry for the delay.
- ALT2: ... that during his final known voyage, Lope Martín overthrew two captains before being marooned on Ujelang Atoll?
- ALT3: ... that Lope Martín and his crew accomplished what Magellan, Loaísa, and Álvaro de Saavedra could not?
Kimikel (talk) 01:42, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 10
[edit]Sobrevivendo no Inferno
- ... that Sobrevivendo no Inferno by Racionais MC's, which critiques police violence and systemic racism in Brazil, was later included as required reading for a university vestibular exam?
- Source: Musical style: https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/ilustrada/2021/08/entenda-como-os-racionais-fizeram-de-sobrevivendo-no-inferno-um-marco-cultural.shtml "A separação de classes estar ligada com o racismo na sociedade brasileira, isso é bastante novo na música." -> [The separation of classes is linked to racism in Brazilian society, which is quite new in music.] Vestibular exam: https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/educacao/2018/05/racionais-mcs-vira-leitura-obrigatoria-para-vestibular-da-unicamp.shtml "Uma das mais importantes instituições de ensino do país, a Unicamp (Universidade Estadual de Campinas) incluiu entre as obras de leitura obrigatória para o vestibular 2020 o álbum Sobrevivendo no Inferno, clássico dos Racionais MC's. É a primeira vez que um disco de música é recomendado para a prova." -> [One of the most important educational institutions in the country, Unicamp (State University of Campinas) included among the mandatory reading works for the entrance exam 2020 the album Sobrevivendo no Inferno, a classic of Racional MC's. It is the first time a music album has been recommended for the exam.]
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- Comment: The album was a whole was included at this vestibular exam and not a specific track.
Cattos💭 18:05, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
@Cathodography: Long enough, new enough. Earwig is clean and I don't see any reason why this might deserve a maintenance template. Never heard the phrase 'vestibular exam' before; is there another way of putting it?--Launchballer 22:21, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: "Vestibular exam" is a common term in Brazil for university entrance exams, so I understand your concern. Maybe "university entrance exam" or "admissions exam" would work better? Cattos💭 23:14, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 12
[edit]Hebrew Free Loan Society of New York
- ... that since its founding in 1892, the Hebrew Free Loan Society of New York has made $380 million in interest-free loans, with a 99.9% repayment rate?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Java War
- Comment: Article is still at AfD, which has been withdrawn by the nominator, but is still open; this nom was submitted to start the process.
Alansohn (talk) 11:45, 18 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: not a review, but I notice that the hook is sourced to a medium blog, which in turn cites the HFLS itself? There are a few other cites to the HFLS for content that's not necessarily non-controversial. I'll leave it to the nominator and reviewer to work out whether that's fine or if it needs to be changed, but I thought I'd bring it up. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 23:39, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
I don't see how this hook is interesting to a broad audience. In addition, the hook as currently written even sounds promotional, as if it's promoting the subject like an advertisement. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:02, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Not the nom, but perhaps "...that the Hebrew Free Loan Society of New York was founded to "fight the age old prejudice that all Jews were usurers""? Rusalkii (talk) 21:56, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Maharani (song)
- ... that Alamat's 2023 single "Maharani" charted twice on Billboard Philippines' Hot 100 chart in July 2024, making them the first Pinoy pop boy band to enter the magazine's charts?
- Source: "On the Billboard Philippines Hot 100, dated July 27, 2024, the multicultural, multilingual P-pop boy group have made a re-entry with their fan-favorite track 'Maharani' taking the No. 95 spot. 'Maharani' first ranked on the same chart at No. 80 during the week of July 6 — the week of the chart’s debut — helping P-pop dominate its rankings alongside the likes of Maki and BINI. To date, Alamat are the only P-pop boy group that have managed to enter the premier music chart’s rankings." Source: https://billboardphilippines.com/market/chart-beat/alamat-re-enter-the-billboard-philippines-hot-100-with-maharani/
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Bloomagiliw (talk) 00:47, 17 March 2025 (UTC).
- I take.--Launchballer 14:16, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
@Bloomagiliw: Long enough, new enough. Earwig is clean and QPQ is unnecessary. I see no reason why this might warrant a maintenance template. The hook is cruising for a pruning per WP:DYKTRIM but the meat of it doesn't check out; the hook puts the claim in wikivoice while the article attributes.--Launchballer 14:48, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 15
[edit]Transgender health care misinformation
- ... that over 20 states in the United States have restricted gender-affirming care for transgender minors, with transgender health care misinformation being one factor behind such bans?
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- Comment: The DYK timed out as the article underwent a GAR - a GA3 and the GAR found keep so relisting with the alt discussed at Template:Did you know nominations/Transgender health care misinformation.
I also second Launchballer's idea that it be used for Transgender Day Of Visibility (March 31). Courtesy pings to @Starship.paint, Narutolovehinata5, SL93, and Launchballer:
Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 18:52, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: @Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist: This is a great hook, and I find it interesting. A few initial concerns:
- The hook fact is sourced to a press release from the Endocrine Society, which means it is a self-published expert primary source.
- A close reading of the press release indicates that the exact wording is slightly different from the hook. It says: "Although the scientific landscape has not changed significantly, misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized. In the United States, 24 states have enacted laws or policies barring adolescents’ access to gender-affirming care, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. In seven states, the policies also include provisions that would prevent at least some adults over age 18 from accessing gender-affirming care."
- The hook fact should adhere as close as possible to the source. I wonder if you can find other secondary sources to support the current wording of the hook or if you can rewrite it for parity. Attribution might also be needed.
- I like the hook image, but the caption is too long, and the legend (key) is too small. I wonder if there is a way to convey this info in a brief caption
- More later. Viriditas (talk) 23:50, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you! My apologies for missing your reply, unsure why I never got the notification. Responding to your points
- 1)
which means it is a self-published expert primary source
- I think this characterization is innacurate. Self-published refers to things like Twitter and Medium, not statements from international medical organizations. Per WP:MEDORG/WP:MEDASSESS it's a good source and per WP:MEDDEFA primary source is one in which the authors directly participated in the research and documented their personal experiences
whileA secondary source summarizes one or more primary or secondary sources to provide an overview of current understanding of the topic, to make recommendations, or to combine results of several studies. Examples include ... medical guidelines or position statements published by major health organizations
so this is secondary. - 2) The wording was based on discussions with Starship.paint for the last DYK nom - I'm open to changing it but unsure how. The source later says
Transgender and gender-diverse teenagers, their parents, and physicians should be able to determine the appropriate course of treatment. Banning evidence-based medical care based on misinformation takes away the ability of parents and patients to make informed decisions.
The Endocrine Society's been consistent with saying these bans are based on misinfo, in 2023 sayingDue to widespread misinformation about medical care for transgender and gender-diverse teens, 18 states have passed laws or instituted policies banning gender-affirming care. ... Some policies are even restricting transgender and gender-diverse adults’ access to care. These policies do not reflect the research landscape.
[2] The reason the hook says trans healthcare misinfo is "one factor" is SP argued they were not taking the position these bans are always based on misinfo (I argued they were). I suggested citing the ES to say such bans are based on misinfo and another source to say how many bans exist currently, but SP said this would be SYNTH. Your call how to best reword this! - 3) Per 2 I'm down to change the wording and per 1 I don't think attribution is needed. Perhaps something like
U.S. states have banned gender-affirming care for minors based on transgender health care misinformation and over 20 states have implemented such bans
? - 4) Thanks, made it myself! Could the caption be
US state laws on trans healthcare access for youth with bans marked in shades of red and shield laws marked in blue
orUS state laws on trans healthcare access for youth - most restrictive (dark red) to most protected (dark blue)
?
- 1)
- Best, Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 19:09, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the thoughtful reply. The Endocrine Society has their clinical practice guidelines posted here and their position statements listed here. The source we are discussing is neither a clinical practice guideline nor a position statement, it is a press release. A press release is "considered a primary source, meaning they are original informants for information". WP:V, footnote 1: "Self-published material is characterized by the lack of independent reviewers (those without a conflict of interest) validating the reliability of the content. Further examples of self-published sources include press releases..." I should note that many position statements are often posted in a journal.[3][4][5][6] To be clear, I agree with the statement in the press release that says "misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized", and I acknowledge that a position statement or clinical practice guideline isn't likely to deal with it, however, this topic did come up during the COVID-19 pandemic and resulted in many peer-reviewed articles about misinformation and politicization. Likewise, Meredithe McNamara has studied this closely.[7][8] I'm guessing that ES is referring to the work of McNamara et al. but in the form of a press release, this is all a bit opaque. I should note that most of the MED source guidelines say to avoid press releases, so I'm a bit confused by this. I will pass this on to someone else as I generally avoid press releases for hooks, even if I agree with them, and I think the sourcing should be tightened up a bit. Given that McNamara et al. is so prolific, this seems like it should be easy to do. Viriditas (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: No problem! I don't think the ES was directly referring to McNamara et al but more so the wave of anti-trans laws. However, I did find a better source / hook if you want to consider that instead of dealing with the question of using a press release!
that due to transgender health care misinformation, over 20 states in the United States have banned gender-affirming care for transgender minors since 2021?
[9] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 23:57, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: No problem! I don't think the ES was directly referring to McNamara et al but more so the wave of anti-trans laws. However, I did find a better source / hook if you want to consider that instead of dealing with the question of using a press release!
- Thank you for the thoughtful reply. The Endocrine Society has their clinical practice guidelines posted here and their position statements listed here. The source we are discussing is neither a clinical practice guideline nor a position statement, it is a press release. A press release is "considered a primary source, meaning they are original informants for information". WP:V, footnote 1: "Self-published material is characterized by the lack of independent reviewers (those without a conflict of interest) validating the reliability of the content. Further examples of self-published sources include press releases..." I should note that many position statements are often posted in a journal.[3][4][5][6] To be clear, I agree with the statement in the press release that says "misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized", and I acknowledge that a position statement or clinical practice guideline isn't likely to deal with it, however, this topic did come up during the COVID-19 pandemic and resulted in many peer-reviewed articles about misinformation and politicization. Likewise, Meredithe McNamara has studied this closely.[7][8] I'm guessing that ES is referring to the work of McNamara et al. but in the form of a press release, this is all a bit opaque. I should note that most of the MED source guidelines say to avoid press releases, so I'm a bit confused by this. I will pass this on to someone else as I generally avoid press releases for hooks, even if I agree with them, and I think the sourcing should be tightened up a bit. Given that McNamara et al. is so prolific, this seems like it should be easy to do. Viriditas (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you! My apologies for missing your reply, unsure why I never got the notification. Responding to your points
New reviewer requested. Viriditas (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Seeing as I have a more in depth knowledge on this article, I will give it a DYK review.
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Overall: I do see the issues that the other reviewer mentioned. I can see where they are coming from but because this hook is not biomedical info it doesn't require as strict of sources. If I remember correctly, press releases can be used as RS If used cautiously. I think using a press release from a reliable society and the fact that is stating things that can be easily verified (as in the policy changes and that misinformation has played a role) makes it appropriate here. I do not think that the image is clear at 100px due to the legend. I would support this hook without the image. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 23:42, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @IntentionallyDense: I appreciate all the time you've devoted to this, but please read WP:DYKRR: "You're not allowed to approve your own hook or article, nor may you review an article if it's a recently listed good article that you either nominated or reviewed for GA (though you can still nominate it for DYK)." Since you passed Talk:Transgender health care misinformation/GA3, we need a new reviewer. Viriditas (talk) 00:05, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oops I didn't know this and had reviewed DYK hooks for article I reviewed in the past. Good to know this moving forward, thank you! IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 00:41, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
New reviewer needed. Viriditas (talk) 00:05, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
About the image, could we proclaim "skill issue" and just crop the image to only a map and then make the caption "states with stricter bans are colored more red"? I'd prefer brevity, but we could also add "gender-affirming care" before "bans" and "and stronger shield laws more blue" to the end of that caption if needed. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:59, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 16
[edit]Gannon Golden Knights football, 1949–1950
- ... that the Gannon Golden Knights football team was abolished due to fan "apathy" despite going undefeated and shutting out six of eight opponents in its first year?
- Reviewed: Annel Silungwe
Cbl62 (talk) 13:54, 17 March 2025 (UTC).
Well then! New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Hook fact checks out and is in article. @Cbl62: There's a citation needed for other disbandings of programs toward the end. I also have a comment: the Lake Shore Visitor is a Catholic newspaper, not the main newspapers in Erie, which Newspapers.com does not have (they are in GenealogyBank). Almost there if we can get the citations in re: San Francisco and Loyola. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:41, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Sammie Brie: Thank you for the review. I added the missing citations. Cbl62 (talk) 21:07, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
There we go. Sorry for missing your ping; check my name spelling next time. :) Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 01:33, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Sammie Brie: Thank you for the review. I added the missing citations. Cbl62 (talk) 21:07, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Reopened per Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Queue 3 (14 April 00:00). SL93 (talk) 16:41, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
Arrow-class oil tanker

- ... that during World War II, the name of an Arrow-class oil tanker, SS Japan Arrow, was changed by the American government to, "avoid any unfortunate association of ideas"?
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"In February 1942, after Pearl Harbor, Japan Arrow was renamed American Arrow, to avoid any unfortunate association of ideas."
https://www.aukevisser.nl/mobil/id636.htm
"..as Japan Arrow (later renamed American Arrow).." https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/c/chotauk.html
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Created by PhoenixCaelestis (talk) and GGOTCC (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.PhoenixCaelestis • Talk • Contributions 11:39, 17 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Overall a well-done article, and the hook citation issue can presumably be fixed quickly, but I am seriously concerned about whether "Auke Visser's MOBIL Tankers & Tugs Site" is an WP:RS. A self-published source like would be acceptable if they were a subject matter expert, but I can't find any evidence of that. Rusalkii (talk) 00:47, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
@Rusalkii: Japan Arrow has an entry in the Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships [[10]] that states that it was renamed in February 1942, however it does not specify the reason. Due to the time period and the events, I do not think it is a stretch to say it was due to the fact that America was now at war with Japan. I'd be willing to rephrase the hook to remove the quote. Perhaps as, "that to avoid association with the enemy during World War II, the name of the Arrow-class oil tanker, SS Japan Arrow, was changed by the American government?" Just a thought for a possible reword. Thanks for taking the time to examine the DYK nomination! PhoenixCaelestis • Talk • Contributions 19:42, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis: The issue isn't with just the hook, it's how heavily the article in general relies on this source. Rusalkii (talk) 21:33, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 22
[edit]The Dark Domain
- ... that the short story "In the Compartment," included in Stefan Grabiński's The Dark Domain, eroticizes train travel in an unsettling, modernist style? Source: Clute and Stableford as cited, among others
- ALT1: ... that The Dark Domain, widely considered to be its author's debut in English six decades after his death, has been praised as evidence placing him "within the canon of supernatural greats"? Source: quote from Brian Stableford, cited in article. For widely considered issue, see footnote, and note all other sources call this his debut. Note all reviews I've seen or references to them have been very positive, so the quote is not cherry picked.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Xiao Yedan
- Comment: ALT0 might be more hooky due to "erotic", but ALT1 is more informative. Shrug.
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: I assume good faith on the references that I can't access. Either hook works. SL93 (talk) 22:33, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
@Piotrus and SL93: There is likely a more clear way to phrase ALT1. Jarvis (2017) says:
- THE DARK DOMAIN
In 1986, Miroslaw Lipinski, a Polish American translator based in New York City, published a home-printed journal, The Grabiński Reader. It contained translations of two stories by the early twentieth-century Polish writer of the fantastic, Stefan Grabiński: “The Area” and “Strabismus.” These were the first translations of Grabiński’s work into English. Over the next few years, Lipinski published more Grabiński translations in further issues of The Grabiński Reader and in small press anthologies. Then, in 1993, Lipinski’s Grabiński translations were collected in The Dark Domain, published by UK-based independent press Dedalus.
So the stories had been previously published in what sounds like a zine. The Dark Domain was his first English-language anthology. And it was the first time his work was distributed by a publisher, versus the homemade journal/zine. I feel like there are a lot of ways to make what the book is more clear both in the hook and in the article. The article calls this "the first time Grabiński's works were published in English
" and then follows that up with footnote a giving the context above. It would be much more clear to write the article chronologically with the footnote worked into the body text. Rjjiii (talk) 05:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: If you have an idea on how to reword either the article or the hook, WP:BEBOLD :) But I am not sure what you are asking me to do? What I wrote is the best way I've come up with. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:52, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for rambling. I think the "debut in English" hook could be easily read in a way that seems to be false and therefore doesn't meet WP:V. I'm stretched a bit thin on-wiki right now, but if anybody proposes other hooks you are welcome to {{ping}} me. I don't have strong opinions on the other hook, but a strict reading of WP:DYKFICTION would rule it out as well. Good luck, Rjjiii (talk) 02:50, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 23
[edit]2023 Robinson–Sullivan tornado

- ... that a tornado in the Midwestern United States dissipated near Palestine?
- ALT1: ... that in the aftermath of the 2023 Robinson–Sullivan tornado (pictured), Sullivan, Indiana was "like a war zone"? Source: https://sullivancountyready.org/
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- Comment: The image would be used for the alternative hook.
7kk (talk) 18:47, 30 March 2025 (UTC).
I'm guessing you're new to DYK, but for the record, you should probably inform the creator / improving editor that got the article eligible for DYK - in this case, @EF5:. We could extend this a few hours past the 7-day limit for DYK, given the GA nomination on March 23, but neither of the hooks seem to me to pass WP:DYKINT - tornado damage is quite often compared to "like a war zone" - and I don't think having only two hooks, one referencing Palestine and another referencing destruction is the best taste. I'm nearly certain the original hook meant to say "formed near" instead of dissipated - Palestine is, yes, both a relatively common place name and a literal geographic place, but the tornado dissipated near Sullivan. Both sources are inadequate to my liking - the first was likely an April 1 hook and the ship has sailed on that, and the second is a primary source and should be attributed as such. I'll ask you to come up with some better hooks before I consider doing a full review. Departure– (talk) 17:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- As creator and GA improver, I’m fine with a DYK nom, but please give me time to suggest a better hook; I particularly don’t like the Palestine mention which just pokes fun at a town name. EF5 18:52, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
List of Byzantine churches in Amman

- ... that the city of Amman, called Philadelphia during late antiquity, contains several Byzantine churches in it (example pictured)?
Makeandtoss (talk) 12:01, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review but I don't see how the hook is interesting or the historical name is relevant. You can combine the two nominations and make a double hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Philadelphia (Amman). It has a possibility to be something quirky, playing on the double meaning of Philadelphia. Yeshivish613 (talk) 21:07, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- The hook is probably indeed not that interesting, so would go with ALT1: "... that some of the Byzantine churches in Philadelphia, modern-day Amman, were repurposed from earlier Roman temples?" Makeandtoss (talk) 09:18, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
Long enough, new enough. Earwig's clean and QPQ is done. ALT1's still fairly bland, but that's not important right now. As written, this would deserve {{one source}}, which begs the question; what makes this meet WP:NLIST?--Launchballer 14:07, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Per NLIST: "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; and other guidelines on appropriate stand-alone lists. The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been." These churches are described as a group in this source [11], so this should fulfill the guideline. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:14, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- The guideline asks that the topic be discussed by independent reliable sources, emphasis mine. I don't think one source is sufficient for that.--Launchballer 14:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I added another source: [12] Makeandtoss (talk) 14:27, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- You mean the bare URL, used once? One source is for articles that are largely based on one source, which this still is.--Launchballer 15:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I have fixed the bare url and used it in two more locations. If notability for lists is established through having these groupings made by reliable sources, then we have now two sources establishing that. Makeandtoss (talk) 08:33, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- You mean the bare URL, used once? One source is for articles that are largely based on one source, which this still is.--Launchballer 15:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I added another source: [12] Makeandtoss (talk) 14:27, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- The guideline asks that the topic be discussed by independent reliable sources, emphasis mine. I don't think one source is sufficient for that.--Launchballer 14:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 24
[edit]List of Lehigh Valley IronPigs Opening Day starting pitchers
- ... that the IronPigs have not lost a opening day start since 2017?
- ALT1: ... that the IronPigs have not lost on opening day since 2019? Source: https://www.citizensvoice.com/2025/03/28/ironpigs-spoil-railriders-season-opener/
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TBJ10RH (talk) 15:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC).
@TBJ10RH: I see that you've nominated multiple Opening Day-related articles for DYK. I will leave the message in this nom specifically since it's the oldest, but this also applies to the Strippers and RailRiders nominations. I think the biggest issue here is that the hooks may not meet WP:DYKINT. Not everyone, especially our non-American readers, may know what Minor League Baseball or Opening Day are, so the hooks already have a limited audience. I imagine many of our readers don't even know who the IronPigs, the Strippers, or the RailRiders are, nor that they are baseball teams. At DYK, we tend to write hooks that are intended to appeal even to readers who have little-to-no knowledge about a subject and its context. Given this, I would suggest you try proposing hooks that even someone who's unfamiliar with baseball would find interesting. I understand that you're still new to DYK, so if you have any concerns or questions, please don't hesitate to ask me or to leave a message at WT:DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Good morning, I appreciate your concerns and advice. For this one, here is another alternative hook perhaps:
"...that J.A. Happ has started Opening Day for both Minor League Baseball and Major League Baseball 10 years apart?"
- To be honest, I don't think that's much better, it really only seems to appeal to baseball fans. Also, it's not a hook about the IronPigs anymore but of opening day in general. Asking @BeanieFan11: or SounderBruce if they can help given their familiarity witg sports DYKs. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:23, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nothing stands out to me that much. The only think I could think of would be something like ... that no Opening Day starting pitcher for the IronPigs has lost since 2017? BeanieFan11 (talk) 12:18, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with you Beanie. That is a pretty cool fact to be honest for anyone interested in knowing about some statistics like that. TBJ10RH (talk) 18:37, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I think the hook is getting there, but what does "lost" mean in this case? The hook seems to suggest that it's the pitcher, not the team itself, that has never lost. It's a little confusing and vague. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:49, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with you Beanie. That is a pretty cool fact to be honest for anyone interested in knowing about some statistics like that. TBJ10RH (talk) 18:37, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
List of Gwinnett Stripers Opening Day starting pitchers
- ... that Bryce Elder is the third Gwinnett Stripers pitcher to start Opening Day multiple times for the franchise?
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- Comment: I think the title is somewhat okay
TBJ10RH (talk) 15:19, 31 March 2025 (UTC).
Soumen Mitra
- ... that whilst acting as a police superintendent under the West Bengal Police, Soumen Mitra developed a reputation for starting welfare and development projects in areas where he was posted?
7kk (talk) 00:17, 31 March 2025 (UTC).
Reviewing... Flibirigit (talk) 18:40, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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- Interesting:
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: The article achieved GA status on 24 March, and nominated for DYK one week later. Length is adequate. Sourcing is good, but the infobox has a full birth date, whereas the citation in the prose in only for the year 1961. Please clarify. The article is neutral in tone, and no plagiarism was detected. The proposed hook is interesting, but could be said in fewer words. The corresponding prose in the article that supports the hook needs a citation directly at the end, as per WP:DYKHFC. No images are used in the article, and the QPQ requirement is complete. Overall, the article is well written and a welcome contribution to Wikipedia. Flibirigit (talk) 18:58, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed both. Sohom (talk) 20:15, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Known for his knack to spruce up buildings where he is posted, some of his colleagues recalled how Mitra had been pivotal in the renovation of the traffic building in Lalbazar, setting up the Calcutta police traffic museum and re-decorating parts of Bhabani Bhavan during his stint at the state CID.
Someone who knows Mitra from his younger days shared with Metro how he had turned a boat seized with a large quantity of illicit liquor into a barb wire shelter for birds during his first posting as the SDPO Barrackpore.
Another officer, who has done multiple assignments with Mitra, said his speciality has been his “human touch for the force and his eye for their welfare”.
As the superintendent of police in Murshidabad, Mitra has started several developmental and welfare projects —some for the constabulary and some for the development of backward pockets known for notorious activities.
“He started the Chandradip Mela in Hariharpara (one of the police station areas in Murshidabad that was infamous of violence and ganglord killings) as an annual developmental project that changed the entire area,” said a senior officer in the force.
- Nowhere in this source can I find the word "reputation", which is a subjective term. It appears he "was known" for development projects, but I cannot see where he was "known for" welfare projects. It is verified that he started several welfare projects, but I cannot see a reputation. One officer quoted as saying Mitra had an eye for welfare, but that does not mean he was "known for" it, rather it seems like one person's opinion. Please clarify. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 21:15, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Wang Huning
- ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect behind Chinese Communist Party's political ideologies since the 1990s under paramount leaders Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping?
- ALT1: ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect behind Chinese Communist Party's political ideologies under paramount leaders Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping? Source: https://www.palladiummag.com/2021/10/11/the-triumph-and-terror-of-wang-huning/
- ALT2: ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect of Chinese Communist Party ideologies the Three Represents, the Scientific Outlook on Development and Xi Jinping Thought? Source: https://www.economist.com/china/2017/11/02/the-meaning-of-the-man-behind-chinas-ideology
- Reviewed:
The Account 2 (talk) 22:10, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment The first two are somewhat tangential by naming the paramount leaders. The main subject is Wang Huning and his ideologies. I find it interesting they are named and linked because I'd never heard of the ideologies before. -- GreenC 01:17, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Is the third one satisfactory? The Account 2 (talk) 11:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
Downstate (play)
- ... that Ted Cruz accused the play Downstate of celebrating pedophilia? Source: "After the Washington Post critic Peter Marks posted a link on Twitter to his favorable review, conservatives, including Senator Ted Cruz, attacked him. They claimed that the play and by extension the review were sympathetic to pedophiles." The New York Times
- ALT1: ... that the theatre which premiered a play about sex offenders had to hire additional security for its run? Source: "So inflammatory are its themes that Steppenwolf, having received threats, had to hire additional security for the show’s run." The New York Times
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nawala Al-Mutawalli
- Comment: I think ALT0 is stronger, but including ALT1 in case others disagree. The expansion tag in the synopsis section is just since it's been a few months since I've seen it and I don't trust myself to remember the full plot, but it's "reasonably complete" for the DYK standard, and if you find it an issue we could reasonably just remove it.
Sdkb talk 06:03, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
I'm pretty certain that WP:PLOTCITE only applies to published works such as films and there's no indication this has made it out of the theatre, so the Synopsis and Characters need sourcing.--Launchballer 12:58, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Launchballer, thanks for taking a look! My understanding of WP:PLOTCITE is that it applies to all published works of fiction, and I would consider this a published work in that the script is available for purchase (ISBN: 978-1-63852-403-8). I haven't found a plot summary published online, so I wouldn't have anything to cite beyond the play itself (which is what PLOTCITE says doesn't need to be cited), and looking to precedents like Wicked_(musical)#Synopsis (a GA) I'm not seeing plots cited there either. For the character descriptions, though, because describing their personalities is a form of inference, I can see more of a need for citations, and they're available in the reviews so I've added them. I hope that helps address your note; please let me know if you need anything else to complete the review! Cheers, Sdkb talk 00:37, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't say I was doing a review, and wouldn't anyway while that tag was still deserved. (I have a firm policy of doing my QPQs oldest first.)--Launchballer 04:04, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- No worries (the use of the reviewer slash icon was what gave me the impression you were).
Per above, this is open for anyone who wants to take it up. Sdkb talk 05:27, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't say I was doing a review, and wouldn't anyway while that tag was still deserved. (I have a firm policy of doing my QPQs oldest first.)--Launchballer 04:04, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 25
[edit]United States government group chat leak
- ... that Trump's vice president, defense secretary, state secretary, intelligence director, and security advisor leaked military plans to a journalist after accidentally adding him to their group chat (pictured)?
- ALT1: ... that Trump's national security advisor, Michael Waltz, accidentally added a journalist to a group chat (pictured) in which he and other US national security leaders shared military attack plans?
- Reviewed: Thin mouse shrew
- Comment: I only named the top contributor as the author. The rest of the hard-working editors appear to have all contributed an equal amount, and it would not have been practical to name them all.
Surtsicna (talk) 08:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC).
- The addition of the journalist to the group still seems unexplained. Various theories have been expressed and Musk has been asked to make a technical investigation. So, the suggested hooks (orig and ALT1) are premature in stating a definitive explanation in Wikipedia's voice. We need more ALTs. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:47, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Could you be more specific, Andrew? The lead of the article unequivocally states that Goldberg was erroneously added by Waltz. Is that not an indisputable fact? What are the other 'theories'? Should the article mention them? Surtsicna (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a reliable source. The lead of the article does not provide a citation for its statement. WP:V is Wikipedia 101 and providing a clearly cited statement is a fundamental requirement per WP:DYKHOOK. For some theories, see Was Signal-gate a mistake, hack or knife in the back?. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:00, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- I am not citing Wikipedia as a source. The article cites its sources, obviously not in the lead. The 'analysis' you linked rests solely on the assumption that Waltz could not have been incompetent enough to do this, and that assumption is not shared by any significant portion of reliable sources. The 'theories' seem to be fringe. If you disagree and think they should be included in the article, I suggest starting a thread at the talk page. Surtsicna (talk) 21:31, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, the theories are not fringe; they all seem reasonably plausible and there's no solid evidence yet for any particular scenario. And pointing to an uncited portion of the lead is not the way that DYK works, "
The facts of the hook in the article should be cited no later than the end of the sentence in which they appear
". Andrew🐉(talk) 21:49, 31 March 2025 (UTC)- Plausibility is not what determines whether a theory is fringe or not. The fact of the hook is indeed cited at the end of the sentence in which it appears. Should the citation be repeated in the lead section? DYK does not say, and if that is the issue you have with the nomination, it is very easily fixed. Surtsicna (talk) 06:48, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- No, the theories are not fringe; they all seem reasonably plausible and there's no solid evidence yet for any particular scenario. And pointing to an uncited portion of the lead is not the way that DYK works, "
- I am not citing Wikipedia as a source. The article cites its sources, obviously not in the lead. The 'analysis' you linked rests solely on the assumption that Waltz could not have been incompetent enough to do this, and that assumption is not shared by any significant portion of reliable sources. The 'theories' seem to be fringe. If you disagree and think they should be included in the article, I suggest starting a thread at the talk page. Surtsicna (talk) 21:31, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a reliable source. The lead of the article does not provide a citation for its statement. WP:V is Wikipedia 101 and providing a clearly cited statement is a fundamental requirement per WP:DYKHOOK. For some theories, see Was Signal-gate a mistake, hack or knife in the back?. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:00, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Could you be more specific, Andrew? The lead of the article unequivocally states that Goldberg was erroneously added by Waltz. Is that not an indisputable fact? What are the other 'theories'? Should the article mention them? Surtsicna (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I feel like the answer in both these cases is, yes, I did know that. I feel like we ought to be able to find a hook that would actually be something most folks don't know. Valereee (talk) 13:57, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Most people in the US probably, but Wikipedia is written for a wider audience. Of course you may suggest alternative hooks. Surtsicna (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- This has been international news for a week now. I've read the article, nothing jumps out at me other than the fact Signal allows deletion, which is against record-keeping laws. Maybe we could build a hook around that? I dunno...that gets into negative about a BLP. Valereee (talk) 17:11, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Most people in the US probably, but Wikipedia is written for a wider audience. Of course you may suggest alternative hooks. Surtsicna (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Marguerite McDonald
- ... that Marguerite McDonald performed the world's first laser correction surgery on the normal eye of a living human patient?
- Source: CRST
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Inchnabobart
- Comment: Expansion began on March 20, 2025. Article is still being reviewed for medical accuracy by DYK's resident doctor.
Cielquiparle (talk) 22:38, 26 March 2025 (UTC).
Timoteo, "El Charro Negro"
- ... that mariachi musicians, like Timothy Pollard, the world's first musically-published African-American mariachi singer, come in all colours? Source: https://wearemitu.com/wearemitu/entertainment/meet-timoteo-el-charro-negro-a-nontraditional-mariachi-singer/
- ALT1: ... that Timothy Pollard is the world's first musically-published African-American mariachi singer? Source: https://wearemitu.com/wearemitu/entertainment/meet-timoteo-el-charro-negro-a-nontraditional-mariachi-singer/
- Nominator cpmment: I think this may be a good addition to highlight the beautiful diversity of music and it's cultivators, as well as recognize the interesting variable that community has in culture-building. Also, while for some reason the visual presentation states it is not a valid article name, it is a public and existant page, linked appropriately. It also does appear to follow the conventions described in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions)
- Reviewed: This is a warts-and-all conversion of an abortive attempt at a nomination by the below author. (Consider installing User:SD0001/DYK-helper.)
Launchballer 20:58, 26 March 2025 (UTC).
- Nominator comment: I apologize, but I am unsure what this means/entails. Is there anything else that I need to do, or something I need to correct? –– Chat-qui-Aboie (talk) 19:54, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Chat-qui-Aboie: You don't have to do anything but wait for a reviewer to pick this up, though I recommend installing User:SD0001/DYK-helper (the instructions are there).--Launchballer 16:11, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- This is not a review, but I have concerns about both hooks. The first hook seems to be more about mariachi music than the subject himself. This is also a "first" hook, so the sourcing for the claim has to be exceptional to prevent challenges. Otherwise, it might be safer to go with a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:01, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Note to who reviews this: Although the page claims that the nominator is Launchballer, their role was just to convert an attempted nomination. The actual nominator is Chat-qui-Aboie, who does not have any prior nominations. As such, a QPQ is not required here. I may take a look at this within the next few days if no one else reviews this. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:31, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Picking this up for review. The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I did not find any close paraphrasing. As this is the nominator's first nomination, no QPQ is required. Neither hook is suitable: the first hook is more about mariachi music than Timoteo himself. The second is a "first" hook, which requires strong sourcing. More importantly for the purposes of this review, the claim of him being a "first" is uncited. Due to this, a new hook will need to be proposed here, one that needs an entirely different angle. Inviting Launchballer to suggest some alternative options and/or to help Chat-qui-Aboie in proposing new hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:52, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm struggling to see much in here. What is your opinion of "that the mariachi musician "El Charro Negro" sometimes uses autotune"?--Launchballer 03:05, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Probably not too interesting given how autotune is very common in music these days. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:18, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Chat-qui-Aboie: Are you still interested in pursuing this nomination and addressing the above concerns? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:34, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Probably not too interesting given how autotune is very common in music these days. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:18, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm struggling to see much in here. What is your opinion of "that the mariachi musician "El Charro Negro" sometimes uses autotune"?--Launchballer 03:05, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 26
[edit]The Alchemist Code
- ... that a game about the seven deadly sins collaborated with The Seven Deadly Sins?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2024 (song)
- Comment: If ever can this be in WP:DYKAPRIL, if not then I'm fine with it. Also idk, how to rephase the hook, open for suggestion.
Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 09:29, 26 March 2025 (UTC).
- @Miminity: You should probably add this to WP:DYKAPRIL for consideration.--Launchballer 22:30, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Should I move this to WP:DYKAPRIL or should I just let it get approved here first and move it? Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 04:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'd move it there. Even if it isn't selected, it will at least get extra eyes on it.--Launchballer 08:19, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Honestly I don't see this as a good April Fools Day hook, though it could work as a quirky. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:25, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'd move it there. Even if it isn't selected, it will at least get extra eyes on it.--Launchballer 08:19, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Should I move this to WP:DYKAPRIL or should I just let it get approved here first and move it? Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 04:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
Given that April Fools Day has long since passed, emphasizing that this is still in need of a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:38, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
New enough, long enough, doesn't appear to be a copyvio.
- The hook is cited (albeit in a list). I'm not 100% sure that casual readers will understand "collaborated" in this context, but oh well. The hook is amusing enough. That said, I think saying that the game is "about" the seven deadly sins seems like too much dramatic license. It was a tactical RPG, not the Pilgrim's Progress. More generally, I'm not sure the equivalent line in the article is properly cited. It says "follows seven characters, each representing one of the seven deadly sins", but it sounds like the countries are the ones that have names related to the seven deadly sins, not the characters. ANN writes "The game is a tactical role-playing game centered on seven characters and themed around the seven deadly sins" but that sounds like the game being themed around the sins, not the characters. I think we need either a better source, or to rephrase this.
- I'm also not a huge fan of just linking "a game" and leaving it a mysterious link. Would you be opposed to an equivalent hook that said something like "that The Alchemist Code, a game themed around the seven deadly sins, collaborated..."? SnowFire (talk) 03:15, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 27
[edit]2025 U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reorganization, Administration for a Healthy America
- ... that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has announced a reorganization of U.S. federal health agencies he says will "make America healthy again" by creating a new Administration for a Healthy America and firing 20,000 workers?
- Source: "HHS Announces Transformation to Make America Healthy Again... The restructuring results in a total downsizing from 82,000 to 62,000 full-time employees... The restructuring plan will... includ[e] a new Administration for a Healthy America." [13]
- Reviewed: Façade (video game), Funding-by-lottery
Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 22:54, 30 March 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on March 28
[edit]Sri Jumahaliah Hanifa
- ... that Sri Jumahaliah Hanifa was the first woman to head the University of Indonesia law school? Source: Oppusunggu, Yu Un (1 January 2008). "In Memoriam Prof. Mr. Dr. Sudargo Gautama". Jurnal Hukum & Pembangunan.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Beringia (dog sled race)
- Comment: If possible, please include the image alongside the hook, I'm ok with waiting for a while until the image could be included!
Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 07:03, 28 March 2025 (UTC).
The article is new enough and long enough and adequately sourced. I did not find any close paraphrasing. All but one source is in Indonesian and offline so AGF. The picture is okay and properly licensed. However, while a QPQ has been provided, it is an incomplete review (it only checked for interestingness and length but not all of the criteria, whether explicitly or implicitly). The article does not mention her date of death, but apparently the obituary does give a date in 2008? My Indonesian is very basic and rusty, and the Google Translate translation is ambiguous: was the 2008 date her date of death, or when they learned the news of her death? Finally, I'm not really that big of a fan of the hook: is there nothing else about her that can be said? If there are no other options, we can probably go with it, but I just want to know if you have any other options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:44, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Whew! Thank you for the very extensive and thorough review. I think I have to adress some of your points: regarding the QPQ, I've checked all references given, the shortness of the hook, and there aren't much to comment about other aspects of the article other than its interestingness and length. Regarding the obituary, it wasn't her obituary; it was another law professor's obituary. In the second-to-last page of the obituary, there is this statement: Sebagai seorang Guru Besar, Prof. Gautama memiliki sejumlah asisten. Di antara mereka adalah almh. Ny. S. J. Hanifah Wiknjosastro, S.H., yang menjadi dekan wanita pertama di FHUI periode 1978-1984 (As a Professor, Prof. Gautama had a number of assistants. Among them was the late Mrs. S. J. Hanifah Wiknjosastro, S.H., who became the first female dean at FHUI for the period 1978-1984.) Lastly, regarding the hook, I don't think there's any other options, since the article's size barely passes the DYK threshold. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:07, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- For the QPQ review, please make the checks explicit in the nomination as a promoter or other editor could reject the QPQ as being insufficiently complete. I'm also not sure if the "- ?" thing in the lede is how we treat people with known dates of birth but no known dates of death, so I found that weird. If that's standard practice then I'll let it slide, and it's not really a DYK issue anyway. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 29
[edit]Targeting law firms and lawyers under the second Trump Administration
- ... that Paul Weiss committed to do $40 million of pro bono legal services in support of Trump administration goals to settle the Trump administration's executive action against the firm?
- Reviewed:
Remember (talk) 02:24, 31 March 2025 (UTC).
Eileen Quinn
- ... that the shooting of Eileen Quinn was referenced in the poetry of W. B. Yeats?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jon Haukeland
- Comment: A fact about history and poetry of Ireland
Moondragon21 (talk) 10:09, 30 March 2025 (UTC).
- Not doing a full reivew, but I don't see "essentially a drive-by shooting" in the source (and it isn't in the body (MOS:INTRO), though that isn't a DYK concern). Rusalkii (talk) 20:12, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- User:Rusalkii, thanks this has been fixed. Moondragon21 (talk) 20:28, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 30
[edit]If Looks Could Kill (Destroy Lonely album)
- ... that the Look Killa kills his victims with the music of Destroy Lonely?
- Source: Revolt
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First time doing a DYK idk if this is how this works.
Chchcheckit (talk) 11:42, 4 April 2025 (UTC).
Not a review, but considering precedent and how the hook appears to be primarily based on song lyrics from the album, the hook as currently written may not meet WP:DYKFICTION. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:27, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- :@Narutolovehinata5 This was intended to be about/refer to the Look Killa short film, not the lyrics, as sourced from the film synopsis provided in the source // Chchcheckit (talk) 16:31, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- That would also violate DYKFICTION, if the hook is based on the short film's plot or story. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:45, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- thanks for clarifying, I guess this is an immediate fail? again idk how this works // Chchcheckit (talk) 01:10, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- You will just need to propose a hook that doesn't violate WP:DYKFICTION. Please read the guideline to have an idea of what to propose. If you want, you can ask for help from an experienced editor like Launchballer regarding this. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:15, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- There's an awful lot of the Release and promotion section that wants culling per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, but I'll do that myself in my time. Creative works such as albums are quite hard to find hooks for; I went to examine "that snippets used to promote Destroy Lonely's debut album were distorted", but I don't see what makes Our Generation Music reliable, but I can suggest "that at a Destroy Lonely concert promoting an edition of his debut album, some fans entered his car". (The source is LA Weekly, which was recently criticized at WP:RSN, but the source predates the AI slop so should be okay, but I'd look for another source just in case.) I'm on the fence as to whether "that Anthony Fantano ranked If Looks Could Kill as the fifth worst album of 2023" is too negative for WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE.--Launchballer 23:29, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- again im kinda up for uh failing this. also yeah ik some parts are overlong // Chchcheckit (talk) 17:52, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: To answer your question, I think the prohibition against excessively negative hooks (except when warranted) only applies to BLPs. This obviously isn't one, so it arguably is fine. Having said that, if the nominator no longer wants to pursue this then this can be closed as a withdrawn nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:40, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- that being said at least i have an idea of what i should do here or wht to look out for, should i try again // Chchcheckit (talk) 14:04, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- A nomination doesn't fail just because the hook doesn't work. (It can fail if there are no available hooks in the article, but I don't think this is the case here.) If you're alright with either of the following:
- ALT1: ... that at a Destroy Lonely concert promoting an edition of his debut album, some fans entered his car?
- ALT2: ... that Anthony Fantano ranked If Looks Could Kill as the fifth worst album of 2023?
- I'll call for a reviewer. (I have a policy of reviewing articles oldest first; Naruto may get here before I do.)--Launchballer 14:38, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- that being said at least i have an idea of what i should do here or wht to look out for, should i try again // Chchcheckit (talk) 14:04, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: To answer your question, I think the prohibition against excessively negative hooks (except when warranted) only applies to BLPs. This obviously isn't one, so it arguably is fine. Having said that, if the nominator no longer wants to pursue this then this can be closed as a withdrawn nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:40, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- again im kinda up for uh failing this. also yeah ik some parts are overlong // Chchcheckit (talk) 17:52, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- There's an awful lot of the Release and promotion section that wants culling per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, but I'll do that myself in my time. Creative works such as albums are quite hard to find hooks for; I went to examine "that snippets used to promote Destroy Lonely's debut album were distorted", but I don't see what makes Our Generation Music reliable, but I can suggest "that at a Destroy Lonely concert promoting an edition of his debut album, some fans entered his car". (The source is LA Weekly, which was recently criticized at WP:RSN, but the source predates the AI slop so should be okay, but I'd look for another source just in case.) I'm on the fence as to whether "that Anthony Fantano ranked If Looks Could Kill as the fifth worst album of 2023" is too negative for WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE.--Launchballer 23:29, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- You will just need to propose a hook that doesn't violate WP:DYKFICTION. Please read the guideline to have an idea of what to propose. If you want, you can ask for help from an experienced editor like Launchballer regarding this. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:15, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- thanks for clarifying, I guess this is an immediate fail? again idk how this works // Chchcheckit (talk) 01:10, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- That would also violate DYKFICTION, if the hook is based on the short film's plot or story. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:45, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'd say ALT 1 because ALT 2 is 1. fantano and 2. opinionated ig. also i think ALT 1 could be written better idk // Chchcheckit (talk) 16:23, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- as in ALT 2 kinda feeds in an idea about how ppl should see the album before even reading it // Chchcheckit (talk) 16:24, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer needed for the article and ALT1.--Launchballer 16:29, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 1
[edit]Cory Booker's marathon speech
... that from March 31 to April 1, 2025, Democratic senator Cory Booker (pictured) delivered a 25-hour speech to protest the second presidency of Donald Trump and the operations of Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, becoming the longest recorded individual speech in United States Senate history?- ALT1: ... that from March 31 to April 1, 2025, Cory Booker (pictured) delivered the longest recorded individual speech in United States Senate history while protesting the second presidency of Donald Trump?
- ALT2: ... that from March 31 to April 1, 2025, Cory Booker (pictured) delivered the longest speech (25 hours and 5 minutes) in United States Senate history in protest of the second presidency of Donald Trump?
- Source: Forbes The Independent
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Historical, unusual and curious
ArionStar (talk) 06:56, 4 April 2025 (UTC).
ArionStar, at 295 displayed characters, the hook is far beyond the 200-character maximum at DYK. You'll need to propose a much-shorter ALT hook; I've struck the original one. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:11, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset:
Done. ArionStar (talk) 12:28, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- I think it would be funny if we put the video of the full 25 hour speech on the front page. Bremps... 16:49, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- And we can make it hookier: ALT2: ... that Cory Booker talked for 25 hours in a row? Bremps... 16:52, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- The record-breaking information is interesting and curious enough to be mentioned. ArionStar (talk) 19:16, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'll leave it up to you guys, but I was thinking we could maybe put it on WP:DYKAPRIL. Bremps... 05:20, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- The record-breaking information is interesting and curious enough to be mentioned. ArionStar (talk) 19:16, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- And we can make it hookier: ALT2: ... that Cory Booker talked for 25 hours in a row? Bremps... 16:52, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- I think it would be funny if we put the video of the full 25 hour speech on the front page. Bremps... 16:49, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset:
- "while protest" I'm pretty sure is not grammatically correct. Maybe "while protesting" or "in protest of"? - Purplewowies (talk) 17:58, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
Done. ArionStar (talk) 15:38, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:17, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I was bold and went ahead and removed the strange and highly unusual wording of "Democratic's" from both hooks.[14] I've never seen the party referred to in that way and I think it called for a bold removal. If anyone thinks mentioning the party is important, there are a number of conventional ways of doing so. One of my faves is to write "Cory Booker (D-NJ)" but it may not be needed. Viriditas (talk) 09:13, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
Laurence Sterne's correspondence with Elizabeth Draper

- ... that Laurence Sterne’s journal of love letters reverses the found manuscript trope by claiming that his real diary is fictional? Source: Cash p. 255: "More puzzling is his reversal of a literary tradition: instead of passing of a fictional diary as a real one, Sterne seemed to be passing off a real diary as fiction. Obviously, it was not a serious attempt at disguise"
- ALT1: ... that Laurence Sterne’s love letters to a married woman inspired two books of fake replies? Source: Oates p. 155, https://www.jstor.org/stable/41154354
- ALT2: ... that Laurence Sterne's love letters to a married woman inspired his last novel's depiction of sexual desire as a force for moral improvement? Source: Parnell xxxii-xxxiii, https://archive.org/details/sentimentaljourn0000ster_s2k5/page/n33/mode/2up
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gordon House (Silverton, Oregon)
~ L 🌸 (talk) 02:55, 2 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 2
[edit]Dexcom CGM
- ... that the Dexcom G6 was the first continuous glucose monitor to function without requiring calibrations, thereby eliminating the need for regular fingerstick blood tests?
- Source: 1. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6477582/ "...the FDA approved the Dexcom G6 as the first real-time factory-calibrated CGM system..." 2. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6422005/ "...sixth-generation factory-calibrated real-time CGM (rtCGM) system (G6) was developed..."
- ALT1: ... that the Dexcom Seven, launched in 2007, was the first CGM system capable of delivering continuous glucose data for a full seven days, doubling the lifespan of its predecessor?
- Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8120065/ "...the STS-7, which was the first device to allow patients to continuously monitor their glucose levels for seven days as opposed to three."
- ALT2: ... that Dexcom aired its first-ever Super Bowl ad in 2023, featuring Nick Jonas, who lives with type 1 diabetes and uses the Dexcom G7 CGM?
- Source: https://www.drugdeliverybusiness.com/dexcom-us-g7-launch-super-bowl-nick-jonas/ "The ad, set to run during the second quarter of Super Bowl LVII on Feb. 12, features musician, actor and philanthropist Nick Jonas. Jonas lives with type 1 diabetes..."
- ALT3: ... that the Dexcom Follow app enables up to ten designated users—like parents or caregivers—to remotely monitor a person’s real-time glucose readings on their mobile devices?
- Source:https://www.dexcom.com/apps
- Reviewed:
MallardTV Talk to me! 23:36, 6 April 2025 (UTC).
Hedonism
- ... that the hedonistic pursuit of pleasure may prevent pleasure?
- Source: Buscicchi, Lorenzo. "Paradox of Hedonism". Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Lead section. Retrieved 19 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the hedonistic maximization of pleasure may be your motivation for reading this question? Source: Tilley, John J. (2012). "Hedonism". In Chadwick, Ruth (ed.). Encyclopedia of Applied Ethics (PDF). Academic Press. § IV. Psychological Hedonism. ISBN 978-0-12-373932-2.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/William Jenkins Wilcox Jr.
Phlsph7 (talk) 08:37, 4 April 2025 (UTC).
- ALT0 will parse better with an added "itself", thus: "the hedonistic pursuit of pleasure may itself prevent pleasure". DS (talk) 15:49, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- It's a little longer but I think it could also work fine. I'll add it as
- ALT0a: ... that the hedonistic pursuit of pleasure may itself prevent pleasure? Phlsph7 (talk) 16:43, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
Big Four (cycling)
- ... that journalists have described cycling's Big Four riders as having a "lockdown" on winning the sport's biggest races?
- Source: https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-racing/breaking-the-big-4-can-any-other-rider-win-a-2025-grand-tour/ ("If you’re getting tired of the “Big 4” lockdown on cycling’s grand tours, don’t get your hopes up for a reprieve in 2025.")
- ALT1: ... that three of cycling's Big Four, who dominated major stage races in the 2020s, debuted at the top level in 2019? Source: Source for Big Four dominance in stage races: https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-racing/breaking-the-big-4-can-any-other-rider-win-a-2025-grand-tour/ Sources for three members (Pogačar, Vingegaard, Evenepoel) debuting at WorldTour level in 2019: https://web.archive.org/web/20250307190503/https://www.cyclingnews.com/riders/tadej-pogacar/ - https://web.archive.org/web/20250114135044/https://www.cyclingnews.com/riders/jonas-vingegaard/ - https://web.archive.org/web/20250208001101/https://www.cyclingnews.com/riders/remco-evenepoel/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: my first DYK nomination, please let me know if there's anything I need to fix!
Verylongandmemorable (talk) 18:34, 3 April 2025 (UTC).
- If a cyclist represents his country at these races, is there a reason why the nationality of each rider is omitted in this article? Flibirigit (talk) 02:57, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
Annis Lee Wister
- ... that Annis Lee Wister was the most well-known translator of German popular novels into English in the United States during the late 19th-century?
- Source: She was the most well known translator of German popular fiction in the United States at the time (source: Tatlock page 216)
- ALT1: ... that Annis Lee Wister translated into English all ten of the novels of E. Marlitt and an additional 32 German popular novels mostly written by women? Source: She translated all ten of the novels of E. Marlitt and an additional 32 popular German novels mostly written by women. (source: Tatlock pages 216 and 220)
- ALT2: ... that as a child, Annis Lee Wister translated Struwwelpeter from German to English? Source: As a child, she translated Struwwelpeter from German. (Source Tatlock page 218)
- Reviewed: Laurie Schipper
Dwkaminski (talk) 18:48, 2 April 2025 (UTC).
- Question not review @Dwkaminski: how do you calculate 5x expansion? I get 2,347 characters now, but 725 characters before you started work, so you want 3,625. See Wikipedia:Did you know/DYKcheck. Perhaps "With Frederic Henry Hedge, she published Metrical Translations and Poems (1888)." and "Among her translations are:" could be excluded, reducing the starting point to 617 and the target to 3,085. TSventon (talk) 19:29, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I followed the guidance on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/DYKcheck.
Counting prose characters without DYKcheck You'll probably make a mistake trying to count this way, but you'll be close. Use a free website, or an external software program that has a character-counting feature. For example, if you are using Microsoft Word, select the text from the article page (or, in the case of "Did you know" nominations, the DYK talk page) – not the edit page containing Wikitext – then copy and paste it into a blank document. Delete everything DYKcheck doesn't count: infoboxes, categories, references, lists, tables, block quotes, headers, images and captions, the "See also" section if any, Table of Contents, edit buttons, "Citation needed" and similar superscripted text, and reference link numbers like [6]. Click "Tools" ("Review" in Office 2007), then "Word Count", and note the "Characters (with spaces)" figure. I used the word count though and not character. Give it quick fail. Dwkaminski (talk) 20:02, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
sorry about that, I have tried manual calculations and prefer the tool, even if it can sometimes be fooled by poor formatting. TSventon (talk) 20:25, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
I'm sure @Dwkaminski: could be given a little longer to get this to 3625.--Launchballer 03:18, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- I made additional edits and the article now meets the 5x increase requirement. Thanks! Dwkaminski (talk) 14:57, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 3
[edit]Kinkaku-ji arson incident
- ... that before burning down a golden Buddhist temple, the arsonist secretly removed one nail, then reinserted it, then removed it again?
- Source: Utsumi, Takeshi (30 June 2020). 金閣を焼かなければならぬ 林養賢と三島由紀夫 (in Japanese). Kawade Shobō Shinsha.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Camellia (musician)
- Comment:
As the citations were mostly ripped off the jawiki version, I cannot put the text where the information came from. Considering the article is GA in Jawiki (meaning it has been reviewed), I am assuming all citations are correct. Rusalkii provided me with a nice hook :)
AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 00:42, 5 April 2025 (UTC).
I'd like to see the {{clarify}} tags dealt with. I'd also like to see what the significance of the thing with the nail was, if the sources contain anything that helps explain it. Otherwise everything seems fine. AGF on the sources, Ich spreche kein Japanisch. Apocheir (talk) 01:10, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Rule of inference
- ... that using classical rules of inference, logicians can prove from any contradiction that the Earth is flat?
- Source: Shapiro, Stewart; Kouri Kissel, Teresa (2024). "Classical Logic". The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Metaphysics Research Lab, Stanford University. § 3. Deduction.
- ALT1: ... that rules of inference can be transformed into tautologies? Source:
- Gossett, Eric (2009). Discrete Mathematics with Proof. John Wiley & Sons. pp. 50–51. ISBN 978-0-470-45793-1.
- Carlson, Robert (2017). A Concrete Introduction to Real Analysis. CRC Press. p. 20. ISBN 978-1-4987-7815-2.
- Hintikka, Jaakko; Sandu, Gabriel (2006). "What Is Logic?". In Jacquette, Dale (ed.). Philosophy of Logic. North Holland. p. 16. ISBN 978-0-444-51541-4.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eleanor Island (Canada)
Phlsph7 (talk) 09:14, 4 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 4
[edit]Dying for Sex, Molly Kochan
- ... that the recent TV series "Dying for Sex" follows the real-life quest of a dying woman seeking sexual exploration?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zug massacre (renomination)
- Comment: Needs work, have nominated now to comply with WP:DYKNEW. I think there's enough sourcing for the woman herself but this article is the priority.
Launchballer 16:34, 12 April 2025 (UTC).
- @Launchballer: Not a review, but given that the hook is based on the plot of a series, but the series is based on real-life experiences (as in it actually happened for the most part, or at least the hook fact did), does this still count as a WP:DYKFICTION violation? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:36, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- So far as I'm concerned, the fact that this happened means that DYKFICTION is met. If I was to run "that Molly Kochan spent her dying days seeking sexual exploration", that would fly all day long.--Launchballer 11:53, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I'm planning on writing articles about Kochan and the podcast and running this as a triple nom.--Launchballer 16:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- Kochan's article is written; my QPQ is Ich komme. ALT1: ... that the subject of Dying for Sex had about 200 sexual partners while terminally ill?--Launchballer 03:15, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I'm planning on writing articles about Kochan and the podcast and running this as a triple nom.--Launchballer 16:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- So far as I'm concerned, the fact that this happened means that DYKFICTION is met. If I was to run "that Molly Kochan spent her dying days seeking sexual exploration", that would fly all day long.--Launchballer 11:53, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Johann Friedrich Riedel
- ... that during a five-month delay in his journey to proselytize in North Sulawesi, German-born missionary Johann Friedrich Riedel got married? Source: [15]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Almeda Lambert
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 14:33, 5 April 2025 (UTC).
Is there anything else that can work here as a hook? The current hook is on the weaker side of things. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:31, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Not too much in the ideas department. Maybe a slight adjustment to the hook but the same thing?
- ALT1: ... that German-born missionary Johann Friedrich Riedel was delayed for five months in his trip to proselytize in North Sulawesi, and got married five days before he resumed his journey?
- Bit lengthy, but well. Juxlos (talk) 03:53, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- I've been reading this article and offer a few alternative hooks:
- ALT2: ... that during a five-month delay in Ambon, German missionary Johann Friedrich Riedel met Maria Williams and married her just days before starting his mission in Manado, Indonesia?
- ALT3: ... that German-born Johann Friedrich Riedel apprenticed as a tailor before becoming a missionary and moving to Indonesia?
- ALT4: ... that the birth of Christianity in Minahasa, Indonesia is celebrated annually on June 12, the day that Johann Friedrich Riedel set foot in Manado?
- — ERcheck (talk) 23:04, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Those work, thanks! @Narutolovehinata5:? Juxlos (talk) 00:05, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! I'm fine with any from ALTs 2-4, although I'm not sure if ALT2 requires Williams to be named as she doesn't have an article: maybe replace it with "wife" or something like that? I'd also suggest mentioning "Indonesia" after Ambon since most readers may have no idea where it is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:35, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- Those work, thanks! @Narutolovehinata5:? Juxlos (talk) 00:05, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 5
[edit]1955 Pakistani Constituent Assembly election
- ... that Pakistani prime minister Mohammad Ali Bogra opposed 1955 election to protect his premiership?
- Source: Kokab, Rizwan Ullah; Shah, Ali Shan; Aziz, Tariq (2020). "Second Constituent Assembly of Pakistan: Politics for Dissolution of Former Assembly and Electoral Regulations for New Assembly". Sir Syed Journal of Education & Social Research. 3 (3): 49–57. doi:10.36902/sjesr-vol3-iss3-2020(49-57). ISSN 2706-6525.
- ALT1: ... that politician Feroz Khan Noon criticized the voting system of 1955 Pakistani Constituent Assembly election as "Gestapo method"? Source: "নয়া গণপরিষদের নির্ব্বাচন পদ্ধতি মালিক ফিরোজ খান নূন কর্তৃক সমালোচনা" [New Constituent Assembly Election Method Criticized by Malik Feroz Khan Noon]. The Azad (in Bengali). 5 June 1955. p. 1.
- ALT2: ... that members were elected by the MPAs in 1955 Pakistani Constituent Assembly election except the FCT whose only member was elected by the Karachi Municipal Committee? Source: Malik, Rahat Zubair (2017). "Parliament not-Parliaments: Legislature of Pakistan in the Hatching (1947-69)". Global Social Sciences Review. II (I). Islamabad: National Institute of Historical and Cultural Research: 55. ISSN 2616-793X.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Buangkok MRT station
- Comment: If you need online archive link for historical newspapers used as sources on the article for proof or copyvio, feel free to ask.
Mehedi Abedin 06:13, 10 April 2025 (UTC).
Little House (EP)
- ... that Rachel Chinouriri has dreamed of having a little house with a partner since she was a child?
- Source: Stereogum
- Reviewed:
CatchMe (talk · contribs) 00:53, 6 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 6
[edit]Iberian mole
- ... that all female Iberian moles (pictured) are hermaphrodites?
- Source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/1383985, "Moles are unique among mammals because all females of the 4 investigated species (Talpa occidentalis [and others]) have ovotestes instead of simply ovaries. ...female moles are thus fertile true hermaphrodites"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Martha Burgess
- Comment: This is a little late, I wanted to take a few days to workshop the hook and then I've been somewhat distracted this past week. If that's not acceptable happy to withdraw this.
Rusalkii (talk) 21:52, 17 April 2025 (UTC).
While the hook is undoubtedly interesting, with regret the article is ineligible for DYK as it was not nominated within seven days of its 5x expansion starting. "A little late" may be a bit of an understatement: according to DYKcheck, this started on April 5th, but the article was not nominated until the 17th, which is 12 days later. Normally we have a built-in 1-2 day extension if the nominator requests it, but 12 days is already too long unfortunately. If the article can be brought to GA status (I'm not sure if it's feasible considering the length of the article), perhaps it can be renominated. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:47, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
The Perfect Prince Loves Me, His Rival?!
- ... that the author of The Perfect Prince Loves Me, His Rival?! used the concept of leveling up in role-playing video games to show that a character was improving in magic?
lullabying (talk) 09:07, 13 April 2025 (UTC).
África Brasil
- ... that África Brasil was recorded with two drummers, two bassists, and many musicians that the producer had to take a crash program in the United States to learn how to record it?
- Source: https://revistacontinente.com.br/secoes/resenha/africa-brasil-1 "O produtor afirmou que ninguém queria encarar a missão de gravar um disco com duas baterias, dois contrabaixos e mais um monte de músicos. Mazzola foi, então, fazer um curso de especialização nos Estados Unidos e pediu para Jorge esperar sua volta ao Brasil e a importação de uma mesa de 16 canais. Acabou cumprindo, também, o papel de técnico de som, pois o profissional designado não conseguia dar conta do novo equipamento."
Cattos💭 00:57, 9 April 2025 (UTC).
Cave Johnson Couts
- ... that 19th-century Californian pioneer Cave Johnson Couts was acquitted thrice of attacking and murdering Indians, mourners at a funeral, and a former Mexican revolutionary, respectively?
- Source: Cave Couts [...] was also a man with a violent temper [...] whipping two Indians [...] one of whom died [...] with an order to stop the funeral; when the party refused they fired into the crowd. One man died [...] he shot and killed Juan Mendoza, former majordomo at Rancho Guajome and a Mexican revolutionary. Mendoza [...] Couts secured a third acquittal. —-[16]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ich komme
- Comment: Alt hooks or ways to spice up my hook welcome. Could be extra interesting due to the existence of Cave Johnson (Portal) in the pop culture consciousness.
Aaron Liu (talk) 03:46, 7 April 2025 (UTC).
- How about something a bit more specific and tighter: that 19th-century Californian pioneer Cave Johnson Couts whipped a man to death, and was acquitted because one member of his jury was not a citizen? DS (talk) 15:28, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- That seems far more mundane than the situation actually was as it omits that the whipped was also not a citizen. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:40, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- How about: that Cave Johnson Couts, who helped shape early San Diego agriculture, was also tried and acquitted for killing a Native laborer, firing on funeral mourners, and shooting a former revolutionary?
- … that Cave Johnson Couts, a respected Californian judge and rancher, was thrice acquitted of killing men—including one at a funeral—despite overseeing forced Indigenous labor and corporal punishment on his estate?
- … Cave Johnson Couts, a West Point–trained officer turned California judge, was acquitted of three killings—including one at a funeral—despite his record of violence and autocratic rule over Indigenous laborers? Issac I Navarro (talk) 16:02, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- I like your first one: How about ALT8:
that Cave Johnson Couts, a pioneer San Diego judge and rancher, was also separately acquitted for shooting a former revolutionary, firing on funeral mourners, and whipping a native laborer to death?
The native labor case had him acquitted during the grand jury phase, i.e. it didn't go to trial. I'm also a bit concerned that "revolutionary" could be interpreted as an American revolutionary in the 1780s' war. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:40, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- I like your first one: How about ALT8:
- Seems good to me. As it would pass Wikipedia:Did you know/DYKcheck,Issac I Navarro (talk) 16:46, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 7
[edit]Jim Aldred
- ... that Jim Aldred coached players described as "the first foreign junior hockey team in Canada"?
- ALT1: ... that "Jungle Jim" was a fan favourite in Sault Ste. Marie for his hard-working and gritty style? Source: https://www.hockeynewsnorth.com/ohl/where-are-they-now/
- Reviewed: Kitsap (Suquamish leader) and Liliget Feast House
- Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.
Flibirigit (talk) 23:26, 7 April 2025 (UTC).
Easter Oratorio
... that the first known collaboration of Bach and Picander resulted in the Shepherd Cantata and, mostly with the same music, the future Easter Oratorio, first performed at St. Nikolai (depicted) for Easter 1725?Source: several- Reviewed: Carl Vincenti
- Comment: I would like this for Easter, 20 April. It's taken by a GA reviewer but not yet GA, but we can already think about it.
Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:20, 7 April 2025 (UTC).
- The currently proposed hook is somewhat complicated and hard to read. May I suggest a shorter and simpler hook?
- ALT1 ... that in contrast to Bach's Christmas Oratorio, his Easter Oratorio has no Evangelist narrator providing Biblical text?
- One of my other concerns with the original hook is that it is also reliant on knowing who Picander is; Bach is obviously a well-known name even to the general public, but Picander is less so. I'm trying to come up with a shorter/simplified version of ALT0 that's also less reliant on knowing who Picander is, but I'm drawing a blank, so if you don't mind, I'm asking 4meter4 or CurryTime7-24 to propose a shorter/simplified version of ALT0 for the benefit of the reviewer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:40, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- We would miss 1) the quirkiness that Bach found the same music suitable for shepherds male and female exchanging pleasantries and Biblical characters facing the empty tomb, 2) the 300 years anniversary, and 3) the first collab with Picander, the author of the St. Matthew Passion and probably the Christmas Oratorio, so good to know, - I didn't know. Also: ALT1 has no music whatsoever, just a dry formal aspect. Interesting? It also tells much more about the Christmas Oratorio than the other to those who didn't know that, and almost nothing to those who knew that already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:26, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- In ALT0, you might skip the church, of course, especially as it was performed in the other the same day, but it forms the link to the image. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:30, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Let me read this article over later tonight or maybe tomorrow afternoon. Honestly, I don't think the quirkiness really comes through in the prolix ALT0. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:26, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: How do these wordings sound?
ALT0a ... that Johann Sebastian Bach and his frequent collaborator Picander wrote an oratorio for Easter?ALT0b ... that Johann Sebastian Bach and his frequent collaborator Picander wrote an oratorio for Easter, which premiered at Leipzig's St. Nikolai church (depicted) in Easter 1725?
- If they don't work out, maybe we will need to move on from this particular angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:52, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- Both factually wrong, sorry. How about reading the article (which isn't even GA yet)? Bach had no idea about any oratorio until 10 years after this happened. This piece was named oratorio 13 years later (and it's debatable if it even is one, - not much changed from the cantata is was in 1725, just the name and a bit of scoring). Collaboration wasn't yet frequent, and their greatest work together came three years later. This is the beginning! Which I believe is interesting! More interesting that they did something very clever: use the same music for both a scenic dinner entertainment about shepherds here and an Easter cantata there! This cleverness should show, and if you can word it better than I could you can make me happy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24: How do these wordings sound?
@Narutolovehinata5 and Gerda Arendt: Before this nomination can continue, I need to point out an issue with this article. While working to add new information, I discovered that the article conflates two related, but separate pieces of music: the Easter Cantata and the Easter Oratorio. The article appears to be about the latter, but the "History" is devoted solely to the former (and its secular model). If it's OK with Gerda, I may need to substantially modify the "History" section. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:05, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Firstly: those two pieces are not very different. Secondly: it is mentioned in lead and history that in 1738, Bach wrote a new score, with a few modifications, and then called it Oratorio. The article title is the latter for several reasons: most recordings use that, it's less German, and it was the title when I met the article. - Go ahead, but please don't tell me it's conflating. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:14, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Well, Gerda, they still are two different scores, composed for separate occasions, and with separate performance/reception histories. It's not me saying this (I'm, admittedly, not too familiar with a lot of Bach's music)—it's Christoph Wolff. While he does say that the modifications Bach made were relatively few, the ones he did make were, according to Wolff, "quite remarkable" and that it changed the character of the music from theatrical to devotional. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- "from theatrical to devotional": that is his interpretation of Bach in 1938 omitting the names of characters and just assigning voice parts, which is in the article. Dürr says about the same. It doesn't change the music. It's still dance music. - There is no reception history of the cantata, as for practically all his church cantatas. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:29, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Again, I'm just the messenger. Please kindly convey your disagreement in written form to Dr. Wolff, c/o W. W. Norton & Company. :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:22, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- No ;) - I found and added a source that everybody can see, by Wolff, 2010, about a "trilogy of oratorios". It has the dates of two of them wrong (saying 1735 instead of current state of the art 1738). Bach Digital (not I) corrected Mr. Wolff. His ideas are interesting, but need to be put in perspective. As I tried to say: that Bach omitted the names is fact, that it means from theatrical to devotional is interpretation which I avoided. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- @CurryTime7-24 What exactly is the issue here? Are you saying that Gerda is engaging in WP:SYNTH? Or are you saying the history section is WP:UNDUE or in error? If what Gerda is saying is true, then Bach merely recycled an older work and made modifications to it. This happened a lot in the baroque and classical eras, and we often cover pieces like this together in history sections in order to provide context. For example the article on the aria "Lascia ch'io pianga" also covers the earlier aria " "Lascia la spina, cogli la rosa" because they have almost identical music (some minor instrumentation differences), but different text, and it covers the even earlier instrumental sarabande from Almira from which the melody originated. This seems like a similar situation where an earlier piece was reworked and put in a new context. The newer piece evolved from the older one, and the history section should cover this. One can't understand the later work properly if one doesn't have the context of the older work from which it was taken. I'm not convinced that the history section as presented is either inaccurate or undue or original synthesis. Lastly, Gerda is extremely well read in Bach literature/scholarship, and is active performer in a Bach ensemble. Much of our coverage on Bach and his works has been written by her (particularly the many Bach cantata articles). So if she's saying something in a text is outdated or in error when it comes to a Bach related article I at the very least would stop, listen, and look at the evidence. Bach is her area of expertise.4meter4 (talk) 16:11, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- No ;) - I found and added a source that everybody can see, by Wolff, 2010, about a "trilogy of oratorios". It has the dates of two of them wrong (saying 1735 instead of current state of the art 1738). Bach Digital (not I) corrected Mr. Wolff. His ideas are interesting, but need to be put in perspective. As I tried to say: that Bach omitted the names is fact, that it means from theatrical to devotional is interpretation which I avoided. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Again, I'm just the messenger. Please kindly convey your disagreement in written form to Dr. Wolff, c/o W. W. Norton & Company. :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:22, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- "from theatrical to devotional": that is his interpretation of Bach in 1938 omitting the names of characters and just assigning voice parts, which is in the article. Dürr says about the same. It doesn't change the music. It's still dance music. - There is no reception history of the cantata, as for practically all his church cantatas. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:29, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Well, Gerda, they still are two different scores, composed for separate occasions, and with separate performance/reception histories. It's not me saying this (I'm, admittedly, not too familiar with a lot of Bach's music)—it's Christoph Wolff. While he does say that the modifications Bach made were relatively few, the ones he did make were, according to Wolff, "quite remarkable" and that it changed the character of the music from theatrical to devotional. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
it's GA now --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:11, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. @Narutolovehinata5 and Gerda Arendt I think too many facts are thrown into the original, and that the alt hooks unfortunately are inaccurate because they miss the nuances of the way this work evolved over time and the extant to which Picander was involved with the work at different stages. I don't think mentioning the church is needed because its inclusion is not adding interest and is distracting from the article being featured. For classical musical buffs, we all know about Bach's lengthy tenure at the St. Nicholas Church and St. Thomas Church, Leipzig so it seems extraneous, and for those who aren't classical music buffs it seems trivial. I would oppose using this photograph as well because the image has nothing to do directly with the oratorio. The painting dates to nearly 25 years after the composition premiered, and is very nominally relevant to the oratorio. I propose the following hook below.4meter4 (talk) 21:46, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
Alt0c ... that the Easter Oratorio (1734) recycled music from the Shepherd Cantata which was the first known work produced by Johann Sebastian Bach with his frequent collaborator Picander?- I'm confused with the above 4meter4: so basically, the article is just fine and there's nothing to worry about the issues CT raised, and instead the main issue here is the hook? Having said that, ALT0c sounds okay. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:39, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0C is factually wrong because there was no Easter Oratorio in 1725. Bach's earliest oratorio dates from 1734. As the article says. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:18, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt Than the info box in the article is either in error or confusing and needs to be fixed to say the premiere was in 1734. If you want to make a distinction with the cantata you need to make a clear differentiation in the infobox which is about the oratorio. @Narutolovehinata5 It just passed a GA review. I, nor the GA reviewer, am not seeing a problem. CT hasn't replied back here, and honestly I don't think that CT has truly read all of the literature here and is not necessarily forming an opinion based on all of the materials. The issue appears to be based on a single scholar's work, which apparently has been corrected as being in error in newer materials used by Gerda that has better more accurate scholarship. Best.4meter4 (talk) 00:38, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- In any case, given the concerns raised with ALT0, I've struck it. Both commenters have suggested that a snappier wording is needed, possibly one that only mentions the essential details. @4meter4: Is the only issue with ALT0c what Gerda raised, or it's actually correct and it's the article that's currently wrong? If this is resolved, we can probably request a new review for ALT0c (or whatever revision to it). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:47, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I thought the development of the oratorios was clear now but will have to expand it further, also the infobox. It was the Christmas Oratorio, Bach's first oratorio, that premiered in 1734. The Easter Oratorio, under this name - well, actually in Latin - was premiered in 1938. However, the cantata premiered in 1725 was basically the very same music, which Bach was able to repurpose to the oratorio concept without major changes because, as the Shepherd Cantata, it had been theatrical from the start, and so was Bach's earliest oratorio (just not named so), before the St Matthew Passion even, with that same Picander.
- Dropping the pic wish (motivated by the wish for both more prominence and a clear placement at a glance in the 18th century):
ALT0d: ... that the first known collaboration of Bach and Picander resulted in the Shepherd Cantata and, mostly with the same music, the future Easter Oratorio, first performed for Easter 1725?- The following might be clearer regarding the 1725 event being the future Easter Oratorio, but would miss saying that the 1738 music was still "mostly the same":
ALT0e: ... that the first known collaboration of Bach and Picander resulted in 1725 in the Shepherd Cantata for a birthday and for Easter, mostly with the same music, the future Easter Oratorio?- I thought about including that it was Picander who would write the St Matthew Passion, to clarify why he is important, but wasn't able to do that on top of the complexity that comes from three stages of the Easter music (well, actually four stages, the last with no more chorus, so more oratorio style even, not mentioned).
- That's as concise as I can get including three stages of one music, important per music history and a high holiday and a centenary, and saying something about the early beginnings (two years before the St Matthew Passion) of Bach and Picander working together cleverly and the future Easter Oratorio. All sources call underrated. It should be known more. Improvement of hooka ia welcome, but not shortening to being wrong. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- I think the issues with ALT0d/ALT0e are: 1. they require familiarity with Picander; again, while Bach is reasonably well-known, Picander is less so, so at least some context as to who Picander is would be necessary, and 2. they don't exactly flow very well. It might be hard to understand for you as English is not your first language, but the grammar is a bit on the clunky side and also long. I still think ALT0c (assuming it has no more remaining factual issues, or is otherwise modified to address them) flows better and largely gives the same idea. @4meter4: can you please modify ALT0c to address any remaining factual issues, or perhaps you can edit the article to address any remaining concerns? Both CT and 4meter4 expressed concerns about hooks being too wordy, and ALT0c at least strives to address that concern. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:42, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0c is wrong as it's written because there was no idea of any oratorio by Bach in 1725. Misleading. - You and I will not agree that any hook requires to be already familiar with anything linked, here Picander, just the opposite: he is mentioned to arouse interest in him, the person without whom we would not have the St Matthew Passion. (Did you see how many clicked on Pavarotti yesterday?) There is a link. Many will already know the name as he is supposed to have written the Christmas Oratorio also. The early collaboration, before all of the other masterworks, and then with the clever plan to use the music for both Shepherds' flattery and followers' missing of Jesus, is interesting, and for me the most surprising and good-to-know news there is about this piece. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- I think the issues with ALT0d/ALT0e are: 1. they require familiarity with Picander; again, while Bach is reasonably well-known, Picander is less so, so at least some context as to who Picander is would be necessary, and 2. they don't exactly flow very well. It might be hard to understand for you as English is not your first language, but the grammar is a bit on the clunky side and also long. I still think ALT0c (assuming it has no more remaining factual issues, or is otherwise modified to address them) flows better and largely gives the same idea. @4meter4: can you please modify ALT0c to address any remaining factual issues, or perhaps you can edit the article to address any remaining concerns? Both CT and 4meter4 expressed concerns about hooks being too wordy, and ALT0c at least strives to address that concern. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:42, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt Than the info box in the article is either in error or confusing and needs to be fixed to say the premiere was in 1734. If you want to make a distinction with the cantata you need to make a clear differentiation in the infobox which is about the oratorio. @Narutolovehinata5 It just passed a GA review. I, nor the GA reviewer, am not seeing a problem. CT hasn't replied back here, and honestly I don't think that CT has truly read all of the literature here and is not necessarily forming an opinion based on all of the materials. The issue appears to be based on a single scholar's work, which apparently has been corrected as being in error in newer materials used by Gerda that has better more accurate scholarship. Best.4meter4 (talk) 00:38, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
Alt0f ... that the 1738 Easter Oratorio recycled music from the 1725 Shepherd Cantata, the first known joint work produced by Johann Sebastian Bach and his frequent collaborator Picander?--Launchballer 21:23, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- I like the approach. I fixed the year to 1738. However, "recycled" isn't quite right to express that it seems to have been planned from the start that two very different texts should suit the same music for very different occasions, both in 1725, the year of the first collaboration. It's a problem that, while the Easter Oratorio was basically again the same music in 1738, it was already heard without that name for Easter 1925, which is the anniversary, not the other. - Any hook: we should pipe to Bach or J. S. Bach. Compare:
ALT0g: ... that the first known collaboration of Bach and Picander resulted in 1725 in two works with mostly the same music, the Shepherd Cantata for a birthday and the future Easter Oratorio?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:04, 16 April 2025 (UTC)- I still think Launchballer's wording is better: it flows better, it puts the Oratorio's name at the start, and "recycled" isn't inherently wrong since it doesn't necessarily mean he copied everything, just that he copied. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:57, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- I am not surprised. Could you perhaps also let others comment? Launchballer, for example. There was no "recycling", and certainly not in 1738, when Bach just wrote a new score. But even in 1725, there was no "recycling" (as I understand the word) but a clever plan from the start to use the music for two mightily different purposes. The oratorio has no tricentenary this year but in 2038, - saying 1738 only is misleading, especially regarding the beginning of the collaboration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Trying to please:
ALT0h: ... that in 1725, J. S. Bach used the same music for the future Easter Oratorio and the Shepherd Cantata for a Duke's birthday, helped by librettist Picander in their first known collaboration?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 16 April 2025 (UTC)- Re ALT0e. Content OK, but not snappy, and does not run smoothly.
- Re ALT0f. Thanks for that, Launchballer, it might have been OK, but in this context "recycled" has a connotation of shabbiness or laziness. Can you find another word?
- Re ALT0g. That would be OK, but it's a bit long and not snappy. Can we just list the new works and leave out the birthday and future?
- Re ALT0h. That would run nicely and smoothly if you missed out "in their first known collaboration". The readers can get that bit when they read the article; they don't need it in the hook.
ALT0i: ... that in 1725, J. S. Bach and librettist Picander used the same music for the future Easter Oratorio and the Shepherd Cantata for a Duke's birthday?Storye book (talk) 18:02, 16 April 2025 (UTC)ALT0j: ... that the 1738 Easter Oratorio reused music from the 1725 Shepherd Cantata, the first known joint work produced by Johann Sebastian Bach and his frequent collaborator Picander?Interpolated would work also.--Launchballer 16:41, 16 April 2025 (UTC)- (commenting here at Gerda's invitation). I think the reason this is tricky is because we're trying to squeeze in a lot of interesting info into one hook. I think of all the options, I like this latest by Launchballer (Alt0j, tho I do not understand the numbering system here!) the best. It is the easiest to parse (i.e. not as clunky as some of the options), and does a good job of keeping the most important/interesting information, as well as efficiently clarifying who Picander is. The unincluded info is, IMHO, also interesting, but there's just too much of it (if DYK was 2 sentences I'd say include it, but it isn't). I don't really like the formulations that refer to Easter Oratorio as a relative "future" work; it's the targeted article. I prefer this formulation. FWIW. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:27, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0j has a few problems:
- Bach comes too late or would you think people would be interested in some Easter Oratorio without composer?
- 1738 comes too soon to understand it's 300 years, which was the only reason to expand that article now.
- ALT0j has a few problems:
- (commenting here at Gerda's invitation). I think the reason this is tricky is because we're trying to squeeze in a lot of interesting info into one hook. I think of all the options, I like this latest by Launchballer (Alt0j, tho I do not understand the numbering system here!) the best. It is the easiest to parse (i.e. not as clunky as some of the options), and does a good job of keeping the most important/interesting information, as well as efficiently clarifying who Picander is. The unincluded info is, IMHO, also interesting, but there's just too much of it (if DYK was 2 sentences I'd say include it, but it isn't). I don't really like the formulations that refer to Easter Oratorio as a relative "future" work; it's the targeted article. I prefer this formulation. FWIW. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:27, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0i has the problem that Picander can't be a subject for the verb "used the same music". Per your suggestion:
ALT0k: ... that in 1725, J. S. Bach used the same music for the future Easter Oratorio and the Shepherd Cantata for a Duke's birthday?ALT0l: ... that in 1725, J. S. Bach used the same music for the future Easter Oratorio and the Shepherd Cantata for a Duke's birthday to poetry by Picander?- I like ALT0h better because the "first" hints at Picander becoming a regular collaborator. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think 1725 coming after 1738 is a big enough problem that we should refer to the targeted article as a future work. That said,
ALT0m: ... that the 1738 Easter Oratorio reused music from the 1725 Bach and Picander collaboration Shepherd Cantata, their first of many?--Launchballer 13:12, 17 April 2025 (UTC)- You don't think ... but I know that the article expansion happened only because Easter 2025 is 300 years after the first performance of the Easter music, not the Shepherd cantata, and that is missing in ALT0m. Instead, we are made believe that the oratorio was composed in 1738, but it was composed in 1725, - only renamed in 1738, which makes it the earliest-composed of Bach's 3 oratorios, and even earlier than the St. Matthew Passion. Which is interesting, I think. You are good in phrasing: can you try? - Any admin around? WT:DYK#Good Friday needs attention even sooner, like in a few hours. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:41, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- I think the main issue with these new proposals, particularly ALT0k and ALT0l is that they don't give any context as to who Picander is. It's been a recurring issue with your proposals and is something that isn't ideal, especially when neither Picander nor his frequent collaborations with Bach are necessarily well-known among the general public. For reference, WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE states
Make sure to provide any necessary context for your hook; don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject.
What may be obvious to you or indeed other classical music experts may not be common knowledge to the general public. I don't see what the issue is with ALT0j: to me at least, the opposition to it feels more like nitpicking rather than any actual hook errors. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:14, 17 April 2025 (UTC)- It's a recurring issue that you don't understand that if there is a link, readers don't have to know but can find out. We will have many readers who know who Picander is (or won't care anyway): why bore them in the few characters we have with who he is? It's not sure that he wrote the text for the music heard on Easter Sunday 1725, only most likely. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see the harm in at least explaining, even briefly, who Picander is, as part of introducing him. If the point of the hook is to introduce who Picander is, at least mentioning how he is relevant to Bach seems more ideal than just mentioning his name without context; not saying who he is would make readers care less about him. If it isn't sure that he wrote the music for the 1725, wouldn't that put the entire hook's viability into question? Asking 4meter4 again regarding the above claim to clarify if there are indeed concerns about if Picander was involved or not. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:54, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- (I see how well you read by saying "If it isn't sure that he wrote the music" talking about Picander.) I came with a good unusual story, the original hook, which tells everybody without special knowledge that 1) there was a great piece performed for Easter 1725 (actually to become one of three oratorios by one of the most celebrated composers ever), 2) that there was some beginning of collaboration of two people, 3) that the piece shared music with another piece of different character, - I think that is interesting information enough, without needing to know who precisely these two people were. - I came to tell a good story for Good Friday (today) about Johannes-Passion (Gubaidulina). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see the harm in at least explaining, even briefly, who Picander is, as part of introducing him. If the point of the hook is to introduce who Picander is, at least mentioning how he is relevant to Bach seems more ideal than just mentioning his name without context; not saying who he is would make readers care less about him. If it isn't sure that he wrote the music for the 1725, wouldn't that put the entire hook's viability into question? Asking 4meter4 again regarding the above claim to clarify if there are indeed concerns about if Picander was involved or not. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:54, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- It's a recurring issue that you don't understand that if there is a link, readers don't have to know but can find out. We will have many readers who know who Picander is (or won't care anyway): why bore them in the few characters we have with who he is? It's not sure that he wrote the text for the music heard on Easter Sunday 1725, only most likely. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- I think the main issue with these new proposals, particularly ALT0k and ALT0l is that they don't give any context as to who Picander is. It's been a recurring issue with your proposals and is something that isn't ideal, especially when neither Picander nor his frequent collaborations with Bach are necessarily well-known among the general public. For reference, WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE states
- You don't think ... but I know that the article expansion happened only because Easter 2025 is 300 years after the first performance of the Easter music, not the Shepherd cantata, and that is missing in ALT0m. Instead, we are made believe that the oratorio was composed in 1738, but it was composed in 1725, - only renamed in 1738, which makes it the earliest-composed of Bach's 3 oratorios, and even earlier than the St. Matthew Passion. Which is interesting, I think. You are good in phrasing: can you try? - Any admin around? WT:DYK#Good Friday needs attention even sooner, like in a few hours. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:41, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think 1725 coming after 1738 is a big enough problem that we should refer to the targeted article as a future work. That said,
- I still think Launchballer's wording is better: it flows better, it puts the Oratorio's name at the start, and "recycled" isn't inherently wrong since it doesn't necessarily mean he copied everything, just that he copied. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:57, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Alt2: ... that Bach's Easter Oratorio from 1725 includes a race of the disciples to the tomb of Jesus. Grimes2 (talk) 06:24, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the offer but - besides formatting - in 1725 their was no "oratorio" name attached to it. The whole idea of oratorios occurred to Bach only in 1732, when mourning for the elector interrupted his normal work for a year, and he had time to think about new things. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- To be honest, had you agreed to ALT0f or even ALT0j, the hook would probably already be in Queue right now since multiple editors were fine with it and were ready to agree to it. The apparent nitpicking regarding hook wording, rather than going with an option that already had multiple editors open to it (ALT0j/ALT0f) is what is causing the nomination to get delayed. If the hook ultimately fails to run on Easter, it is not through the fault of editors who did their best to propose and discuss hooks that would have appealed to the general public while also not being too overly detailed or complicated. Considering how it is becoming less likely the nomination will be approved in time: 1. would you be open to agreeing to ALT0j given editor openness to it, so that the hook can run on time, or 2. would you be open to the hook running on any day other than Easter? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:06, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't like a hook that is factually wrong. Nothing was recycled or reused in 1738, it happened in 1725. You could still approve j, if you don't see that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:24, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- To be honest, had you agreed to ALT0f or even ALT0j, the hook would probably already be in Queue right now since multiple editors were fine with it and were ready to agree to it. The apparent nitpicking regarding hook wording, rather than going with an option that already had multiple editors open to it (ALT0j/ALT0f) is what is causing the nomination to get delayed. If the hook ultimately fails to run on Easter, it is not through the fault of editors who did their best to propose and discuss hooks that would have appealed to the general public while also not being too overly detailed or complicated. Considering how it is becoming less likely the nomination will be approved in time: 1. would you be open to agreeing to ALT0j given editor openness to it, so that the hook can run on time, or 2. would you be open to the hook running on any day other than Easter? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:06, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
I was about to approve ALT0j, but right now there's an issue with the article. Actually multiple. Firstly, I can't actually see any sentence in the article, apart from the lede, that outright says the Oratorio reused music from the Shepherd Cantata. Instead, if my understanding is correct, Bach reused the Shepherd Cantata's music for the 1725 Easter Cantata (not Oratorio), which was then reused for the Oratorio. As such, the reuse actually seems to be indirect in this case rather than direct.
- In addition, the "Oratorio (1738)" section also does not directly mention that he reused the Shepherd Cantata's music for the Easter Oratorio, but rather he reused the Easter Cantata for that purpose. The sentence stating this, "For Easter 1738, Bach could use the 1725 Easter cantata basically at it was." also lacks a footnote. There's also an inconsistency between the lede and the article: the lede claims that the Easter Oratorio was different from Bach's other oratorios in lacking an Evangelist narrator, but the article only compares it to the Christmas Oratorio and not in general.
- Given the issues with the Shepherd Cantata/Easter Cantata angle, we may have to move away from that one. Depending on how the article and lede are reconciled, we could revisit ALT1 and have something like:
- ALT1a ... that unlike his other oratorios, Bach's Easter Oratorio does not feature an Evangelist narrator?
- If that's not feasible, we may have to go with a completely different angle. I don't think we could go with the Duke's birthday angle as it's still ultimately tied to the Shepherd Cantata. ALT2 might not pass scrutiny as it's technically a hook about song lyrics, a hook format that has been discouraged at DYK due to the association with WP:DYKFICTION. Inviting 4meter4, CurryTime7-24, Launchballer, and Floquenbeam for feedback regarding possible new hook angles/wordings, as well as to address the concerns raised above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:02, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Forgot to ping Grimes2 as well. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:02, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Given the concerns raised above, I've struck all hooks reliant on the Shepherd Cantata angle; they can be revisited and unstruck on an individual basis once the issues I raised are resolved. ALT2 is left unstruck as it remains open as an alternative, especially if others disagree with the "use of lyrics in a hook" objection. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:17, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Please read the article again. The music for the oratorio is the same (with minor scoring differences) as the cantata. Happy Easter - I celebrate until Tuesday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- I did, and other than the lede the connection between the Shepherd Cantata and the Easter Oratorio is indirect at best. That has to be made clearer in the article, that that the Oratorio used the Shepherd Cantata's music, rather than the current version where it says so in a roundabout way (it used the Easter Cantata as a basis, which itself used the Shepherd Cantata as a basis). Even if that was resolved, one of the sentences that verifies that fact, "For Easter 1738, Bach could use the 1725 Easter cantata basically at it was," lacks a footnote. Now that I think about it, several of the variations of ALT0 are unsuitable since they actually seem to be more about the Easter Cantata than the Oratorio itself, and generally we want to avoid hooks where the bolded article is only tangentially related to the main hook fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:56, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Please read the article again. The music for the oratorio is the same (with minor scoring differences) as the cantata. Happy Easter - I celebrate until Tuesday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Charles Moses (sprinter)
- ... that after having fabricated claims of participation at the 1980 Summer Olympics, Charles Moses actually competed at the 1984 Olympics?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fortnight (song)
- Comment: To complete QPQ within 24 hours. Two days late, hoping for an IAR exemption per WP:DYKG:
The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:06, 17 April 2025 (UTC).
- Thank you for nominating this as I didn't do it in time. I'm not sure if it would be a conflict for me to review it because I did the expansion? --Habst (talk) 22:09, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, given that you expanded it, it'd be considered a conflict to review it. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:35, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
Green Thumb Industries
- ... that Green Thumb Industries produces cannabis on lands of a former prison?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Green Thumb Industries is a new article. The prison article has also been expanded. First DYKN, apologies if its not right.
//Lollipoplollipoplollipop::talk 09:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC).
Johann Jacobi von Wallhausen
- ... that Johann Jacobi von Wallhausen's German translation of De re militari (pictured) was illustrated by the engraver Theodor de Bry?
- Source: Sydney Anglo (2002), "Vegetius's 'De Re Militari': The Triumph of Mediocrity", The Antiquaries Journal, 82: 256, doi:10.1017/s0003581500073790: "One of his key pedagogical techniques was to provide plenty of illustrations and, in this respect, he was perhaps fortunate to secure the enthusiastic services of Theodore De Bry both as publisher and as engraver and organizer of engravers."
- ALT1: ... that Johann Jacobi von Wallhausen's military treatise Kriegskunst zu Fuß of 1615 became the first subtantial secular book printed in Russia in 1649? Source: Oleg Rusakovskiy (2020), "The Russian Edition of Johann Jacobi von Wallhausen's Kriegskunst zu Fuß (1649): The History of A Failure?", Militaergeschichtliche Zeitschrift, 79 (1): 1–25, doi:10.1515/mgzs-2020-0001: "it was the first book on secular matters printed in Russia, not counting some textbooks on grammar and elementary arithmetic".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/History of the Jews in Dubrovnik
- Comment: Many more images on Commons. Any one could swapped in and used here if it looked better at DYK size.
Srnec (talk) 23:09, 14 April 2025 (UTC).
Royalty Pharma
- ... that Royalty Pharma owns partial rights to seven of the top 30 selling drugs in the United States?
- Source: "Cashing in on rising drug prices often unleashes an outcry from consumers and politicians. But a little-known private equity investor, Royalty Pharma, has built an unusual investment portfolio valued at $15 billion — it buys up the rights to royalties on future drug sales — while largely avoiding public controversy. By its own count, Royalty Pharma owns partial rights to seven of the 30 top-selling drugs in the United States, including giants like Humira, the arthritis treatment that is the single biggest-selling medication in America. And its deals have been getting larger." NY Times
Thriley (talk) 16:29, 13 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 9
[edit]Jim Coffeen
- ... that after being the first quarterback for the Green Bay Packers, Jim Coffeen served as the team's first public address announcer?
- Source: first quarterback, first PA announcer
- ALT1: ... that a year after playing for the Green Bay Packers, Jim Coffeen became an official working at Packers games? Source: he became an official in 1920; there's other sources such as this for him being an official as well
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Murder of Patricia Jeschke
- Comment:
To complete QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:21, 16 April 2025 (UTC).
Golden Temple
- ... that the Golden Temple is made of copper overlaid with gold leaves?
- Reviewed:
saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs⚔ 19:50, 13 April 2025 (UTC).
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- At least one sentence copied/closely paraphrased from bbc.co.uk; see Copyvio Detector.
- Other problems:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- The proposed hook as written is not supported in the article. The article says
The Temple was renovated in marble and copper in 1809, and in 1830 Ranjit Singh donated gold to overlay the sanctum with gold leaf.
The article does not support the idea that the Temple ismade of copper
. The listed source for the hook is not accessible via Google Books, and the source for the claim in the article, pp. 28-30, also does not mention anything about the temple materials including copper. The Encyclopedia of Sikhism entry on the temple does say its upper levels and roofs are gilded copper. - Interesting:
- Not very. I would recommend making it a bit more specific. It is unsurprising that a "Golden Temple" would indeed have gold leaf on it.
Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed:
- I recommend adding a picture from the article; there are several good options.
- Used in article:
- Clear at 100px:
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:38, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
@Dclemens1971 (talk) Thanks for reviewing this nomination. It's hard to change the language of the sentence as it represents the the information clearly and is a translation of the the information. As a sikh myself, I can assure that the similarity is a coincidence. Still, to prevent a violation, I've fixed it to prevent the copyright violation. Also, thanks for the source & I think that it would be better to change the hook. Apologies for taking your time in this hook as this is my first nom. saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs⚔ 09:33, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ophyrius There's still part of that sentence that is copied word for word from the BBC source. Please ping me once you have addressed that, updated the text of the hook and added an image to the DYK. Thanks! Dclemens1971 (talk) 10:32, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Music of the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fandom
- ... that in 2021, a remix of the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fan song "Discord" went viral on TikTok, with many users unaware of its origins in brony music?
- Source: In June 2021, the The Living Tombstone remix of the 2012 song "Discord" by Odyssey Eurobeat went viral on social media. The song was named after and themed around the eponymous character from Friendship Is Magic, a mischievous draconequus known for causing chaos and disharmony.[1] The song became especially popular among the Generation Z crowd on TikTok, who made parodies, lip-syncs, and dances based on the song.[2] Several users who used the song in their videos reported that they had been previously unaware of its My Little Pony origin.[1]
- ALT1: ... that the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fandom's music subculture has developed its own music subgenres like "Dubtrot" (a brony version of dubstep) and "Ponybeat" (brony-inspired Eurobeat)? Source: Musicians from various countries contributing across multiple musical styles including metal, rock, electronic, and specialized subgenres like "Dubtrot" (also known as "Ponystep") as a brony version of dubstep, and "Ponybeat", for brony-inspired Eurobeat popularized by fandom musician Odyssey Eurobeat (formerly known as Eurobeat Brony[1]).
- ALT2: ... that AI-generated vocals of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic characters have become popular in brony music since 2020, with creators using the web app 15.ai to make characters "sing"? Source: In March 2020, fandom musician GeekBrony released the explicit pony music video Pony Zone, which used AI-generated vocals of Twilight Sparkle and Fluttershy from the popular text-to-speech web app 15.ai.[3]
- Reviewed:
GregariousMadness (talk to me!) 23:12, 10 April 2025 (UTC).
- @GregariousMadness: Not a review, but WP:CRACKED is not a reliable source.--Launchballer 16:39, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
Graham Rossini
- ... that Arizona State athletic director Graham Rossini became a fan of the university because he owned a baseball card of ASU player Mike Kelly? Source: https://news.asu.edu/20240523-sun-devil-community-qa-rossini-opportunities-challenges-ahead-asu-new-athletic-director
- ALT1: ... that Arizona State athletic director Graham Rossini got his start as a student assistant, with duties including washing baseball uniforms? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5524759/2024/05/29/arizona-state-graham-rossini-athletic-director/
- ALT2: ... that Arizona State athletic director Graham Rossini was described as "the tallest, skinniest catcher of all time" when he attempted to try out for the baseball team? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5524759/2024/05/29/arizona-state-graham-rossini-athletic-director/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders Opening Day starting pitchers
- Comment: This is a first for me at DYK. I created this page as part of my disclosed paid editing work for ASU (User:Melted Brie). For DYK purposes, I am crediting my normal account as the sole author as I'm not doing DYK at ASU's direction and to streamline DYK credits.
Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 06:40, 10 April 2025 (UTC).
Article looks good. Unfortunately I think being paid to create an article would disqualify it from appearing on DYK. Thriley (talk) 14:56, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fairly certain that's not true at all; that Brie was compensated for the article would mean it would deserve {{COI}}, which isn't a disqualifier per WP:DYKCOMPLETE.--Launchballer 16:34, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- It feels like a violation of the spirit of Wikipedia. If this is allowed, then all properly disclosed paid editors could use the front page to promote whatever they wanted. Thriley (talk) 21:29, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest raising this at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#ASU — disclosed paid editing. For what it's worth, Joe Matesic was passed no questions asked by BeanieFan11 (who I am purposefully not pinging per WP:CANVASS).--Launchballer 17:37, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, there's no blanket ban against DYK nominations where COI is involved. Things are treated on a case-by-case basis, rather than there being hard rules against it. We did have that issue with TonyTheTiger and his sister a while back, and that nomination was ultimately rejected, but again that nomination was discussed largely on its merits and not solely for being a COI. In this particular case, while Sammi did write the article on the direction of ASU, her nominating the article was done independently and was not a request by ASU. If it had been the latter, then perhaps this nomination would be inappropriate, but in this case, it's just an article she nominated that just happened to be one she made as part of her paid editing work, rather than her being paid to nominate it for DYK. I kinda doubt her ASU superiors even know what DYK is (please correct me if I'm wrong Sammi). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:38, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- That is correct on all counts. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 08:06, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, there's no blanket ban against DYK nominations where COI is involved. Things are treated on a case-by-case basis, rather than there being hard rules against it. We did have that issue with TonyTheTiger and his sister a while back, and that nomination was ultimately rejected, but again that nomination was discussed largely on its merits and not solely for being a COI. In this particular case, while Sammi did write the article on the direction of ASU, her nominating the article was done independently and was not a request by ASU. If it had been the latter, then perhaps this nomination would be inappropriate, but in this case, it's just an article she nominated that just happened to be one she made as part of her paid editing work, rather than her being paid to nominate it for DYK. I kinda doubt her ASU superiors even know what DYK is (please correct me if I'm wrong Sammi). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:38, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest raising this at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#ASU — disclosed paid editing. For what it's worth, Joe Matesic was passed no questions asked by BeanieFan11 (who I am purposefully not pinging per WP:CANVASS).--Launchballer 17:37, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- It feels like a violation of the spirit of Wikipedia. If this is allowed, then all properly disclosed paid editors could use the front page to promote whatever they wanted. Thriley (talk) 21:29, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fairly certain that's not true at all; that Brie was compensated for the article would mean it would deserve {{COI}}, which isn't a disqualifier per WP:DYKCOMPLETE.--Launchballer 16:34, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
There needs to be a community discussion on disclosed paid editors and DYK. I think it would be best to have a complete ban of paid articles on DYK rather than evaluating them on a case by case basis. Brie is an exceptional editor with a long history. To make an exception for her but not other paid editors opens up too many potential time consuming discussions that would be avoided with a simple ban. Thriley (talk) 15:56, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: If you believe that we need a hard ban on any COI articles on DYK, then please feel free to start an RfC about it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:36, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
Visit Myanmar Year
- ... that in response to Visit Myanmar Year, Aung San Suu Kyi led a movement for a boycott that advised "Don't Visit Myanmar"?
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/15/travel/weighing-the-ethics-of-a-trip.html
https://www.burmalibrary.org/reg.burma/archives/199607/msg00256.htmlTarheelBornBred (talk) 21:40, 9 April 2025 (UTC).
WP:QPQ not done (or not linked above), stalled till then, may be quick failed if not completed soon.
- Note: I will most probably not be able to review this after QPQ is submitted as I just came across while patrolling. Others can definitely take over this review. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 11:58, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Bunnypranav: I think I linked the QPQ I did, this is my first time doing one so if I did it wrong I apologize. User:TarheelBornBred 17:04, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
Uncus dzaugisi
- ... that Uncus dzaugisi is the oldest ecdysozoan, a group that contains arthropods, tardigrades, and nematodes, ever found?
- Source: Hughes et al., 2024 [17]
- Reviewed:
ZKevinTheCat (talk) 18:58, 9 April 2025 (UTC).
The lede is a bit inconsistent with the DYK fact since the article appears to be more reserved on whether or not Uncus can be considered a true ecdysozoan. The source seems to not be particularly reserved in that classification, so you'll need to adjust the article to line up more with the hook. PrimalMustelid (talk) 13:03, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 10
[edit]Sabahudin Delalić, Ismet Godinjak, Adnan Manko, Asim Medić, Dževad Hamzić
- ... that Bosnian sitting volleyball players Sabahudin Delalić, Ismet Godinjak, Adnan Manko, Asim Medić, and Dževad Hamzić have won medals at every Paralympics this century?
- Source: Olympics ("He (Delalic) is one of five Bosnia and Herzegovina players [along with Adnan Manko, Asim Medic, Dzevad Hamzic and Ismet Godinjak] to have won six career Paralympic medals in the sport.") - they also each won in 2024, and the prior six Paralympics go back to 2000.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/London Vegetable Orchestra & Template:Did you know nominations/The Second November & Template:Did you know nominations/Wen Chia-ling & Template:Did you know nominations/Peter Sprenger & Template:Did you know nominations/Hamengkubuwono III
- Comment:
Please give me two or three days to complete the five QPQs.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:27, 11 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 11
[edit]Anja Margetić
- ... that Anja Margetić was the first woman to represent Bosnia and Herzegovina at the Olympics?
- Source: Olympedia
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bernardo de Opuo
- Comment: To complete QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:06, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
Mirsada Burić
- ... that runner Mirsada Burić survived a concentration camp, attempted rape, and snipers' bullets to compete at the 1992 Olympics?
- Source: LA Times (this quote from her is crazy: "Sniper man everywhere. They shoot everything moving, but I keep running. I'm a little scared, but I don't care. I keep running.")
- ALT1: ... that runner Mirsada Burić survived a concentration camp and snipers' bullets to compete at the 1992 Olympics? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Javier Domínguez
- Comment: To do QPQ within 24 hours. Honestly, this is one of the greatest sports stories I've ever heard, and probably one of my favorite articles.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:54, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
Mehmed Skender
- ... that when weightlifter Mehmed Skender was contacted to join Bosnia and Herzegovina's first Olympic team, he was in a trench manning a machine gun?
- Source: Daily Oklahoman
- ALT1: ... that when contacted to join his country's Olympic team, weightlifter Mehmed Skender was in a trench manning a machine gun? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Food House
- Comment: To do QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:05, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
- Or maybe just ALT2 ... that weightlifter Mehmed Skender was manning a machine gun when asked to join Bosnia and Herzegovina's first Olympic team? BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:09, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
Marva Nabili
- ... that Marva Nabili, a member of the Iranian New Wave, made a film about the struggles of family in Chinatown?
- Source: "MARVA NABILI, an immigrant film maker from Iran, has written and directed Nightsongs, a fictional portrait of Chinese immigrants in New York. Having spent several years living near and even working in Chinatown, she has compiled a haunting biography of outsiders trying to survive in a new environment. The slice-of-life details are depicted with the immediacy of a documentary using a hidden camera. Being presented as part of public television's American Playhouse series,"
Thriley (talk) 05:10, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
Mountain lions in the Santa Monica Mountains
- ... that mountain lions in the Santa Monica Mountains are one of only two instances of large wild cats living in a megacity, the other being leopards in Mumbai, India?
Title - Lions in the Santa Monica Mountains "Los Angeles is one of only two megacities in the world (the other is Mumbai) that have big cats living within the city limits."
https://sentinelcolorado.com/uncategorized/big-cats-in-urban-jungle-la-mountain-lions-mumbai-leopards/ Title - Big cats in urban jungle: LA mountain lions, Mumbai leopards
"Los Angeles and Mumbai, India are the world’s only megacities of 10 million-plus where large felines breed, hunt and maintain territory within urban boundaries."- Reviewed:
Gb321 (talk) 04:25, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
Manasse Malo
- ... that MP Manasse Malo was beaten 50 times by his elementary school teacher after failing to answer a math question? Source: Halawa, Ohiao (1999). Profil 48 Ketua Umum Parpol RI [Profile of the 48 Chairpersons of the Political Parties in Indonesia] (in Indonesian). Jakarta: NIAS and Kreasi Karya Wiguna. p. 461.
Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 08:40, 14 April 2025 (UTC).
- @Jeromi Mikhael: Please do a QPQ on this nom in the next 24 hours or this may be closed without warning. ミラP@Miraclepine 19:45, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine:
Done Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 23:13, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine:
Herbert and Katherine Jacobs First House
- ... that Herbert Jacobs and his wife charged people admission to visit their house (pictured)? Source: Scardino, Albert (May 27, 1987). "Herbert Jacobs, 30's Reporter Who Reshaped Architecture". The New York Times.
- ALT1: ... that Herbert Jacobs and his wife charged admission to visit their house (pictured), earning enough money to pay for the architect's fee? Source: Scardino, Albert (May 27, 1987). "Herbert Jacobs, 30's Reporter Who Reshaped Architecture". The New York Times.
- ALT1A: ... that Herbert Jacobs and his wife paid off the architect's fee for their house (pictured) by charging visitors admission? Source: Scardino, Albert (May 27, 1987). "Herbert Jacobs, 30's Reporter Who Reshaped Architecture". The New York Times.
- ALT2: ... that to save US$35, the owners of the Herbert and Katherine Jacobs First House (pictured) asked its architect to shorten a roof eave by 2 feet (0.61 m)? Source: Jacobs, Herbert (October 4, 1976). "[For Working] And Living". The Capital Times. pp. 21, 22.
- ALT3: ... that the owners of the Herbert and Katherine Jacobs First House (pictured) could not obtain a U.S. federal government loan because the house had a flat roof? Source: Gill, Brendan (1987). Many Masks: A Life of Frank Lloyd Wright. New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons. p. 389
- ALT4: ... that the popularity of Frank Lloyd Wright's Herbert and Katherine Jacobs First House (pictured) prompted Americans to ask him to design their houses? Source: Rosenbaum, Alvin (1993). Usonia: Frank Lloyd Wright's Design for America. Preservation Press, National Trust for Historic Preservation. p. 150.
- ALT5: ... that the first owners of the Herbert and Katherine Jacobs First House (pictured) spent all their savings on just the land? Source: Gill 1987, p. 389.
- Reviewed: Niederdollendorf stone (3rd of 3 QPQs)
Epicgenius (talk) 18:21, 11 April 2025 (UTC).
Will be claiming this for review and will work on it within the next few days. Personally I think ALT3 is the most interesting hook as it's not uncommon for houses to charge admission for entry, and the others seem somewhat more specialist. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:46, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- I looked at this to review for a qpq but see that it is already occupied. I dislike ALT3 because it says nothing special about the subject, just about building laws. (It may be misnumbered above.) My favourite is ALT1, but I'd add a link to the architect, who for some readers might be the only thing interesting. All hooks need a pictured-clause. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thinking about this again, I might be more open to ALT1 if it's slightly reworded so that the focus in on the "paying the architect's fee" aspect rather than simply the charging for admission aspect. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:26, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for taking a look. I've proposed ALT1A accordingly. As to Gerda's comment, I've added "pictured" to the hooks. Epicgenius (talk) 00:58, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thinking about this again, I might be more open to ALT1 if it's slightly reworded so that the focus in on the "paying the architect's fee" aspect rather than simply the charging for admission aspect. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:26, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Vilner Emes
- ... that the 1940-1941 Vilnius Yiddish daily Vilner Emes (pictured) followed Soviet orthography and thus did not use final forms of Hebrew letters?
- Source: Gennadiĭ Ėstraĭkh. Soviet Yiddish: Language Planning and Linguistic Development. Clarendon Press, 1999. p. 135
Soman (talk) 11:00, 11 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 12
[edit]Gust Zarnas
- ... that Gust Zarnas was the first NFL player from Greece?
- Source: PFR
- Reviewed: to do
- Comment: To do QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:17, 19 April 2025 (UTC).
Technical geography
- ... that technical geography develops and tests methods for handling spatial information?
- ALT1: ... that technical geography studies the application of technologies like Geographic information systems, cartography, and remote sensing? Source: [4][5][6]
- Reviewed:
GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 02:40, 19 April 2025 (UTC).
Thelma Adams (farmer)
- ... that Thelma Adams protested milk quotas in the United Kingdom by sitting in a bathtub of milk wearing a Cleopatra wig? Source: Daeth Ms Adams yn enwog yn 1984 ar ôl gwisgo fel Cleopatra ac eistedd mewn bath llawn llaeth oer i brotestio yn erbyn prisiau poteli llaeth. Wrth eistedd yn hanner noeth mewn bath yn gwisgo wig Cleopatra, cafodd ei thynnu gan gerbyd drwy dref Caerfyrddin i dynnu sylw at brisiau rhad poteli llaeth./Ms Adams became famous in 1984 after dressing up as Cleopatra and sitting in a bath full of cold milk to protest against the price of milk bottles. Sitting half-naked in a bath wearing a Cleopatra wig, she was pulled by a carriage through the town of Carmarthen to draw attention to the cheap prices of milk bottles.
- ALT1: ... that Thelma Adams started selling cheese after quotas on milk sales were implemented? Source: It was following this decimation of the dairy industry, that the couple created Caws Cenarth. Crafting organic, fresh-flavoured cheeses for over three generations, Caws Cenarth is the oldest established producer of Welsh Farmhouse Caerffili (PGI) company is the oldest established producer of Welsh Farmhouse Caerffili which was granted European Protected Geographical Indication (PGI) in 2018.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Betsy Arakawa
ミラP@Miraclepine 23:12, 15 April 2025 (UTC).
Epistola prudenti viro
- ... that the nominal writer and addressee of the apocryphal Epistola prudenti viro lived centuries apart?
- Source: Burnett, Charles F. S. (1984), "An Apocryphal Letter from the Arabic Philosopher al-Kindi to Theodore, Frederick II's Astrologer, Concerning Gog and Magog, the Enclosed Nations, and the Scourge of the Mongols", Viator, 15: 151–167, doi:10.1484/J.VIATOR.2.301438: "The attribution to al-Kindi is patently false, in that Ja'qub ibn Ishaq al-Kindi died soon after A.D. 870. ... The recipient of the letter, on the contrary, is a person who might well have been alive when the letter was written."
ALT1: ... that the 13th-century letter Epistola prudenti viro originated the idea that a fox helped Gog and Magog escape from beyond Gates of Alexander? Source: Burnett, Charles F. S.; Gautier-Dalché, Patrick (1991), "Attitudes Towards the Mongols in Medieval Literature: The XXII Kings of Gog and Magog from the Court of Frederick II to Jean de Mandeville", Viator, 22: 162: "the story of the fox has not been associated with the escape of the Enclosed Nations elsewhere".I have struck this because, although I do not think the authors are very clear on this point, it appears that they believe the Mirabilia mundi is earlier and includes the same story.- ALT2: ... that the 9th-century Muslim polymath al-Kindi did not write the Letter to a Prudent Man that bears his name, but his supposed addressee, Theodore of Antioch, may have? Source: See above for al-Kindi. For Theodore, see Veselov, Fedor N. (2021), "Omens of the Apocalypse: The First Rus' Encounter with the Mongols through the Prism of the Medieval Mind", in Alexander V. Maiorov; Roman Hautala (eds.), The Routledge Handbook of the Mongols and Central-Eastern Europe: Political, Economic, and Cultural Relations, Routledge, p. 23: "Taking into account the identity of the author of the letter, who most probably was the addressee himself."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Buddhism in Armenia
Srnec (talk) 23:33, 14 April 2025 (UTC).
Current nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on April 13
[edit]Bernardo de Opuo
- ... that in 1551, a Sicilian soldier killed his own family in order to prevent them from being enslaved during an Ottoman attack?
- Source: "this soldato Siciliano ... it was not certain death that troubled him, but the plight of his wife and daughters. He knew only too well what would happen if they were dragged away to slavery in a foreign land. So, he stabbed them one after another and was soon afterwards killed himself while fighting the Turks." (Source: Bezzina, Joseph (2021). "Bernardo De Opuo: Fact or fiction?" (PDF). The Gozo Observer (44): 9–14. Archived from the original (PDF) on 13 April 2025.)
- Reviewed: TBD
Xwejnusgozo (talk) 13:28, 19 April 2025 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:00, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Article looks good and hook is interesting. Approving. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:09, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Xwejnusgozo: Actually, just realized you still need to complete a QPQ. Let me know when you've done one and I'll approve. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:18, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Kajaani Castle
- ... that upon its completion, the Kajaani Castle (pictured) was the northernmost stone castle in Europe?
- Source: Vuoden 2004 näyttelyt, Museum of Kainuu. Accessed on 16 September 2013.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Reinaldo Herrera
- Comment:
JIP | Talk 09:03, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
- The article has been expanded by more than 5 times in the past week, no isses with copyright, and the information is cited both in the article and hook. My only question is if the hook could also mention the castle's location in Sweden (fine if not). However, there is significant uncited sections within the article. GGOTCC 21:09, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- I will see if I can find more sources for the article. Both the Finnish and the Swedish articles about the castle have an infobox, I could probably add one for this article as well. I am assuming that it's fine to mention the castle as being in Sweden as the area it's located in belonged to Sweden from when the castle was constructed to well past its destruction, although it's now located in independent Finland. JIP | Talk 21:38, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have citations for Kajaani Castle in literature and From ruin to restoration? If not, the article is not eligable for DYK. GGOTCC 21:45, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- I will see if I can find some sources. JIP | Talk 21:53, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have citations for Kajaani Castle in literature and From ruin to restoration? If not, the article is not eligable for DYK. GGOTCC 21:45, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- I will see if I can find more sources for the article. Both the Finnish and the Swedish articles about the castle have an infobox, I could probably add one for this article as well. I am assuming that it's fine to mention the castle as being in Sweden as the area it's located in belonged to Sweden from when the castle was constructed to well past its destruction, although it's now located in independent Finland. JIP | Talk 21:38, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Tina Packer
- ... that despite feeling she lacked a voice in her original career as an actress, Tina Packer called her next job as stage director "a sedentary occupation"? Source: Fliotsos and Vierow 2008, p. 330: "Packer recalls, "I wanted power because I couldn't bear not having a voice. As a mere actor in the theater world, you have no voice. You're cast based only on what you look like, and you begin to lose all sense of who you really are.... "" + Fliotsos and Vierow 2008, p. 333: "into the new century she has continued to act from time to time as well, taking a break from directing. "Directing is such a sedentary occuраtion," Packer observed. "You sit there with all your emotions and tensions and have no way of letting them out, where as an actor gets to go through the cathartic experience night after night. That's the one thing I miss about acting" (Epstein 1985, 113)."
- ALT1: ... that stage director Tina Packer has hired Black and Asian actors in traditionally-White Shakespearean roles? Source: Fliotsos and Vierow 2008, p. 334: "From the beginning, Packer has been a proponent of color-blind casting, giving opportunities to gifted actors of color who rarely were cast in Shake-speare's major roles, particularly in the 1970s and early 1980s. ... Natsuko Ohama, a founding company member, agreed, stating that she would never have the opportunities to play roles traditionally cast as Caucasian roles in other Shake-speare companies." + Merlin: "her actors included Asian-American Natsuko Omaha, African-American Gregory Cole + Her 2016 cast for The Merchant of Venice included four African-American actors, one Indian-American actor, an Israeli, a Canadian, two Brits and several white Americans."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Puna mouse (Puna mouse)
ミラP@Miraclepine 03:19, 16 April 2025 (UTC).
Contradiction: Spot the Liar!
- ... that the game Contradiction has been cited as one of the factors behind the resurgence of full motion video?
- Source: Wireframe: "While Follin says he's thankful for the success of Contradiction , he now feels like he's languishing in the second wave of FMV interest that he helped create"; CBR: "Her Story and Contradiction Brought FMV Back To Gaming"; Kotaku: "As FMV, or full-motion video, has come back into vogue with games like Contradiction: Spot the Liar, Obduction, and the re-release of Night Trap..."
- ALT1: ... that the FMV game Contradiction was made on such a low budget that its creator learned how to code instead of hiring a programmer? Source: Cliqist interview: "Around the same time I decided I’d better learn how to program too, since having worked with programmers in the past, I knew I wouldn’t be able to ask someone to do it without paying them."
- Reviewed: [[]]
Shapeyness (talk) 11:15, 15 April 2025 (UTC).
Arrest of Marcy Rheintgen
- ... that Marcy Rheintgen was arrested and jailed in a Florida men's prison for washing her hands in a women's bathroom while being transgender?
- ALT1: ... that Marcy Rheintgen was arrested and jailed in a mens prison for washing her hands in a Florida women's bathroom because she is transgender? Source: https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/trans-woman-arrested-sent-to-mens
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cutie mark
- Comment: Many other sources available in the article, but this one is the most comprehensive which includes all the facts.
John Cummings (talk) 09:07, 14 April 2025 (UTC).
- Potential hook image here. It's splitting hairs, but wasn't she technically arrested for entering a female bathroom while being born male? (In theory, it'd be illegal for anyone born as male to enter that bathroom, regardless of identification. Which makes little difference, as the law is intended to target transgender people, but it's best if we have clear wording.) Bremps... 16:40, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Liechtenstein at the 1968 Summer Olympics
- ... that when Liechtenstein sent athletes to compete at the 1968 Summer Olympics, they only sent athletes who competed in athletics?
- Reviewed:
History6042😊 (Contact me) 15:05, 13 April 2025 (UTC).
Priamurye Governorate-General
- ... that Priamurye Governorate-General, a Russian colony, was home to East Asian merchants, farmers, labourers and political activists?
- Source: Park, Alyssa M. (2019). Sovereignty Experiments: Korean Migrants and the Building of Borders in Northeast Asia, 1860–1945. Studies of the Weatherhead East Asia Institute, Columbia University. Ithaca and London: Cornell University Press. p. 138:
- "Korean and Chinese farmhands, miners, fishermen, and carriers, numbering in the tens of thousands, had forced Russian farmers and industralists into a perpetual cycle of dependence on foreign labor."
- Stephan, John J. (1994). The Russian Far East: A History. Stanford, California: Stanford University Press. pp. 72, 75–77. ISBN 9780804727013:
- "Chinese merchants took advantage of the free trade zone on both sides of the border and did a thriving business in Blagoveshchensk, Khabarovsk, Nikolsk, and Vladivostok. Vladivostok attracted merchants, tradesmen and peddlers from Shanghai and Canton as well as seasonal labor from Shandong and Shanxi." (p. 72)
- "Regardless of citizenship, Koreans demonstrated energy, enterprise, and adaptability. Like the Chinese, they kept Vladivostok and Khabarovsk supplied with fresh vegetables. In addition to farming their own parcels, they cultivated the lands of their Cossack, Russian, and Ukrainian landlords, leading an official to remark in 1906 that 'Koreans work hard and always get better harvests than Russians.'" (p. 75)
- "As Tokyo tightened its grip on the peninsula after 1905, Korean exiles in the southern Primorye stepped up their political agitation, trained military units, roughed up local Japanese, and in 1908 carried out an armed foray across the Tumen River." (p. 76)
- "Nationalist organizations such as the Genyōsha (Black Ocean Society) and the Kokuryūkai (Amur River Society) provided additional eyes and ears, fielding Chinese- and Korean-speaking agents posing as commercial photographers, barbers, tailors, launderers, martial arts instructors, and Buddhist priests." (p. 77)"
Mupper-san (talk) 04:34, 13 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 14
[edit]Carl Jorgensen (American football)
- ... that Carl Jorgensen was the first NFL player born in Denmark?
- Source: PFR (which names him as Bud Jorgensen)
- Reviewed: to do
- Comment: To complete QPQ within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:12, 19 April 2025 (UTC).
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Henry Quincy Alexander
- ... that Henry Quincy Alexander's first contact with the Farmer–Labor Party was them asking him to be their nominee for vice president?
- Source: His nomination came as a shock, as Alexander had never been affiliated with the Farmer–Labor Party in any way whatsoever.[7]
- ALT1: ... that one of the reasons Henry Quincy Alexander accepted the Farmer–Labor Party's nomination for vice president was that Senator James A. Reed had refused it in a rude way? Source: He accepted the nomination for four reasons: in a spirit of protest of the major party platforms; out of respect for the Farmer–Labor Party's effort to improve the conditions of farmers and laborers; out of appreciation for the offer itself; and because he believed Senator Reed had refused it in a rude manner.[8]
- ALT2: ... that becoming the Farmer–Labor Party's vice presidential nominee led Henry Quincy Alexander to enthusiastically support the Democratic presidential nominee Al Smith? Source: After withdrawing as the Farmer–Labor Party's vice presidential nominee, Alexander became an active supporter of Al Smith, co-leading an organization, the La Follette musketeers, intended to get La Follette voters to back Smith.[9][10][11]
- ALT3: ... that as the Farmer–Labor Party's vice presidential nominee, Henry Quincy Alexander repeatedly endorsed the Democratic presidential nominee Al Smith? Source: Despite accepting the nomination, he still intended to vote for Al Smith.[12][13]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The entire reason I decided to make this article was the 1928 stuff, so it may be blinding me a little, but I think it is easily the most hooking info about him, even if it was only a week or two long.
1brianm7 (talk) 02:09, 16 April 2025 (UTC).
Future Days (The Last of Us)
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- ... that Craig Mazin (pictured) submitted the script for The Last of Us's second season premiere about 90 minutes before the 2023 writers' strike?
- Source: Entertainment Weekly
- ALT1: ... that the writers of The Last of Us had to consider the state of LGBTQ rights in 2003 for second season premiere? Source: Wired
- ALT2: ... that Bella Ramsey (pictured) trained in Brazilian jiu-jitsu for two months before filming the second season premiere of The Last of Us? Source: USA Today
- ALT3: ... that a shot in the second season premiere of The Last of Us was framed to match the video game? Source: Variety & HBO: 33:53
- ALT4: ... that Catherine O'Hara's (pictured) casting in the second season premiere of The Last of Us was inspired by Bryan Cranston's role as Walter White in Breaking Bad? Source: HBO: 25:37
- ALT5: ... that one reviewer called The Last of Us's second season premiere "perhaps [Pedro] Pascal's (pictured) finest acting work to date"? Source: The A.V. Club
- ALT6: ... that Isabela Merced (pictured) and Young Mazino unwittingly took Gustavo Santaolalla's instrument while filming The Last of Us's second season premiere? Source: Cosmopolitan
- Reviewed: The Robot Revolution
- Comment: Plenty of possible image options: Mazin with ALT0, Ramsey with ALT2, O'Hara with ALT4, Pascal with ALT5, Merced or Mazino with ALT6
– Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:40, 14 April 2025 (UTC).
- @Rhain: One reviewer's opinion about Pascal's performance in "Future Days" may well be fine, but I've added something in the filming section about Isabela Merced and Young Mazino unwittingly becoming [ronroco] thieves against Gustavo Santaolalla during filming: want to swap it out real quick?
- ...that during filming for The Last of Us's second season premiere, performers Isabela Merced and Young Mazino unwittingly stole composer Gustavo Santaolalla's instrument?
- Source: Cosmo
- BarntToust 23:23, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- No offense intended—I just don't quite see the interesting aspect or uniqueness in Pedro Pascal being generously lauded—so I offer note of the (accidentally) troublesome antics of the leading performers. BarntToust 23:27, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- Interesting idea—added ALT6. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 23:47, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
Spaceship House
- ... that the flying saucer-shaped Spaceship House in Tennessee is accessed by a staircase that was once retractable?
- Source: "When the Space House finally opened on Thanksgiving Day in 1973, some 500 people visited the new building.... The house’s single entrance is reached via steps that resemble the airstairs of a jet (if not a spacecraft); they were once electrically retractable." https://sah-archipedia.org/buildings/TN-01-065-0075
- ALT1: ... that the flying saucer-shaped Spaceship House was originally built as a 1970s-era bachelor pad, complete with shag-carpeted walls? Source: "Building contractor Curtis W. King (1922–2005) built the Space House as a 'bachelor pad' for his sons, while also hoping that it would serve as a model for future-oriented residences.... When the Space House finally opened on Thanksgiving Day in 1973, some 500 people visited the new building.... At the top of the entrance stairs is a vestibule once fitted with a built-in bar and carpeted in red and black shag. Further up the stairs is the combination living and dining room, which was also originally furnished with shag carpeting: gold on the floor and white on the walls." https://sah-archipedia.org/buildings/TN-01-065-0075
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Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:07, 14 April 2025 (UTC).
Fascinating article, this is the most 1970s thing ever and I love it. New enough, long enough, Society of Architectural Historians publication and WSJ are good sources, appears neutral. The US has FOP for buildings, so the image is fine. QPQ not needed. ALT1 checks out fact-wise, interest wise, and citation wise.Couple small nitpicks with the article itself:
concrete tub veneered with Japanese tile
andThe house, which weighs between 55 and 60 tons, rests on six slanted columnar legs, through which the house's plumbing and electrical lines run
. Can we tweak these so they don't take the same verbs as the source article? I know it's a bit harder, when you're working most from one source, but I think the article would benefit. Also, the article states that the staircase was "permanently fixed in the down position", but the WSJ says "broken". Can we get clarity? We also need a citation for the landmark status that's mentioned in the lead. I'm not approving ALT0 because neither source appears to say that the staircase was retractable upon the house's initial construction, only that they "once" had that property. Whether you'd like to reword it or bring in an alternate source is up to you. ALT1 appears fine. Again, great article, ping me as soon as the things get fixed and I'll happily approve it. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 03:55, 15 April 2025 (UTC)- GreenLipstickLesbian Language updated as you suggested. The house is described in sources as a
local landmark
colloquially as it does not have official landmark status (that I know of), but I added an AP story in which it is described as a landmark. Dclemens1971 (talk) 10:23, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- GreenLipstickLesbian Language updated as you suggested. The house is described in sources as a
- @GreenLipstickLesbian: Actually, FoP for buildings in the US, when photographed as the primary subject, only applies to buildings erected under copyright since 1992. That excludes this one, unless we determine that the copyright has likely expired since the early 1970s (which it well may have, given that it predates later extensions in copyright terms that only applied to work then under copyright). Daniel Case (talk) 18:19, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case and GreenLipstickLesbian: Is that really the case? I am not a copyright expert, but according to Commons,
Buildings are works subject to copyright in the US according to 17 USC 102(a)(8) since the Architectural Works Copyright Protection Act was passed in 1990. It applies to all buildings that were completed after December 1, 1990, even if begun before, or where the plans were published after that date. However, the US federal copyright law explicitly exempts "pictures, paintings, photographs, or other pictorial representations" of copyrighted buildings from the copyright of the building in 17 USC 120(a). Anyone may paint, draw, or photograph buildings from public places. ... This means that for buildings completed before December 1, 1990, there is complete FoP, without regard to whether the building is visible from a public place, because the building is public domain, except for the plans.
A building completed in 1973 photographed from a public place would appear to be covered by this FOP. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:12, 18 April 2025 (UTC)- OK, you're right. I was probably confusing the law's applicability to buildings (useful articles) with its applicability to three-dimensional artworks. My mistake. Daniel Case (talk) 21:37, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case and GreenLipstickLesbian: Is that really the case? I am not a copyright expert, but according to Commons,
Killing of Samir Flores Soberanes
- ... that Samir Flores Soberanes was killed the day after he challenged the accuracy of information about a federal project?
- Source: * La Jornada: [18] "En 2019 se volvió activar la acción del gobierno federal para impulsar el PIM. La amenaza de una simulación de consulta y la acción de desinformación del gobierno en foros en diferentes partes del estado de Morelos, fueron la antesala del asesinato de Samir. Un día antes de su asesinato, Samir encaró con argumentos contundentes al Superdelegado del Gobierno Federal Hugo Erick Flores sobre los impactos negativos que traerá este proyecto hacia los pueblos. (In 2019, the federal government resumed efforts to promote the PIM. The threat of a simulated public consultation and the spread of government misinformation at forums across Morelos set the stage for Samir’s murder. Just one day before he was killed, Samir confronted Federal Government Delegate Hugo Eric Flores with strong arguments about the negative impacts the project would have on local communities.)"
(CC) Tbhotch™ 05:21, 14 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 15
[edit]Template:Did you know nominations/Dilaw
Pandora (2002 novel)
- ... that Britart and the Turner Prize are both lampooned in the Jilly Cooper bonkbuster Pandora ? Source: "The backdrop for Pandora is the contemporary art scene, a setting which allows Cooper to take some rather successful swipes at the Saatchi-fuelled excesses of Britart. The superbrat Sienna, for example - all piercings, pouty lips and ripped denim - manages to get Turner Prize-shortlisted for her work 'Tampax Tower', an edifice 'built of used tampons sent her by women of substance'." https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/may/05/fiction.features2
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bechbretha
- Comment: The linked QPQ is for a multi-article nomination, the specific review for this is for Bretha Déin Chécht
Lajmmoore (talk) 07:16, 16 April 2025 (UTC).
Ken Taggart Memorial Trophy and Memorial Bowl
- ... that the Ken Taggart Memorial Trophy and Memorial Bowl were the fourth trophies won by the Billingham Stars and Peterborough Phantoms 2 respectively in the 2024-25 National Ice Hockey League season?
- ALT1: ... that the Ken Taggart Memorial Trophy was one of five trophies won by the Billingham Stars in the 2024-25 National Ice Hockey League season? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0l4gcvr
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Score! (novel)
- Comment: ALT1 is written in the event that Billingham win the NIHL 1 Championship this forthcoming Sunday. This hook is of interest because if they do win, the club will have won all five trophies that they took part in. In the event they don't, this hook suggestion can of course be deleted.
ISD (talk) 16:39, 15 April 2025 (UTC).
A comment and not a review. I don't see how either hook is interesting to people unfamiliar with ice hockey, and especially British ice hockey (an already rather niche topic in itself). Why is it important that the Billingham Stars won it, and why focus on that specific team? I think a hook about the trophy itself than whatever teams won it would be more appropriate here. We have a DYK regular who's an expert on ice hockey hooks so I'd suggest contacting them too for help in suggesting new hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:39, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm happy for you to contact that hockey expert. ISD (talk) 07:34, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @HickoryOughtShirt?4: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Incredibly flattered to be considered an ice hockey expert
. I also noted the use of "they" as my pronoun, which is fine but I use she/her IRL After reading the article, I have come up with some additional hooks:
- ALT1a: ...that the National Ice Hockey League's Peterborough Phantoms 2 won the 2025 Memorial Bowl after a 17-goal game? [19]. I think this could be "hooky" for a wide audience since I think most people understand that hockey has significantly lower scoring than other sports like basketball.
- ALT1b: ...that an 18-year-old and a 46-year-old both competed for the 2025 Ken Taggart Memorial Trophy? [20]. According to Elite Prospects, Neil Liddiard is also the oldest player in the league. This would have to be added to the article.
- Please let me know your thoughts. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 17:24, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- I personally prefer ALT1b. That reference is already one in the article. ISD (talk) 17:59, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Incredibly flattered to be considered an ice hockey expert
- @HickoryOughtShirt?4: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 16
[edit]Arthur Loveless
- ... that Arthur Loveless never married?
- Source: Michelson, Alan. "Arthur Lamont Loveless". Pacific Coast Architecture Database (PCAD). https://pcad.lib.washington.edu/person/2488/
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:51, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
@Generalissima: Article seems to pass all requirements, QPQ done. Hook is a so-so but considering the last name I get the hook :). Would you be okay with "... that Loveless was loveless?" or another formulated hook? Arconning (talk) 06:20, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
Camp Growden
- ... that CCC Camp Growden (pictured) was envisioned to become a winter sports complex with toboggan run?
- Source: The Spokesman-Review 1935
- ALT1: ... that the only remaining building at CCC Camp Growden is the Changing Room House (pictured)? Source: Spokesman-Review. July 30, 2011 "The camp’s military-style barracks, the mess hall and office buildings were torn down long ago. Just one building survived: a log structure that served as changing rooms for CCC recruits who swam in the Camp Growden’s man-made lake."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aquilegia micrantha var. mancosana
- Comment:
Camp Growden changing house Sept 2024
Camp Growden changing house image for alt1 hook.
Using the Aquilegia micrantha review from the nomination.
Kevmin § 16:07, 17 April 2025 (UTC).
Wicked!
- ... that the first Jilly Cooper bonkbuster to have a character wear a condom during sex is the 2006 novel Wicked! ? Source: Page, Benedicte. "Jilly and the shagsaga: Jilly Cooper talks to Benedicte Page about changing sexual mores and her latest romp, Wicked!" The Bookseller, no. 5218, 24 Feb. 2006, pp. 20 (https://www.thebookseller.com/author-interviews/jilly-and-shagsaga)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bechbretha
- Comment: The QPQ is from a multi-article nomination, and the article in question for this QPQ is Recholl Breth
Lajmmoore (talk) 07:24, 17 April 2025 (UTC).
St Catherine's Chapel, Lydiate
- ... that priests were secretly buried at St Catherine's Chapel, Lydiate after it fell into ruin?
- Source: Manning, Stephen W. (1992). Riches & Religion: The story of three buildings in Lydiate. ISBN 0951020455: "The chapel had probably ceased to cater for the souls of the living in the mid-16th century ... Nonetheless, several Jesuit priests were secretly interred there, the first, reputedly, in 1589." Also Lydiate Hall & Its Associations from page 181.
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- Comment: I believe this should be just over 5x expanded. I'll do the QPQ shortly.
Sam Walton (talk) 22:52, 16 April 2025 (UTC).
- @Samwalton9: As a QPQ is required at the time of the nomination, this may be closed within 24 hours if a QPQ is not provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:51, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 17
[edit]Nathan Frink
- ... that after shifting allegiances, Nathan Frink fled the United States with child-slaves to settle in Canada where he was elected MLA and caught in a smuggling conspiracy with the chief customs officer?
- Source: various, in article
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Fundy Isles Historian - J (talk) 19:08, 19 April 2025 (UTC).
Robert Allen Norris
- ... that Robert Allen Norris wrote his PhD dissertation on the brown-headed nuthatch (Sitta pusilla) and the pygmy nuthatch (Sitta pygmaea), making it "A Tale of Two Sittas"?
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC).
Furhat (robot)
- ... that the Furhat social robot can track facial expressions and interact with up to ten people at once?
- Source: Biba, Jacob (May 8, 2024). "What Is a Social Robot?". Built In. Retrieved April 10, 2025.
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- Comment: Invited to submit a fact since article got a B rating in AfC
Viljowf (talk) 18:31, 17 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 18
[edit]James Ashcroft
- ... that New Zealand director James Ashcroft's latest movie, The Rule of Jenny Pen, features a man who terrorises elderly people with a puppet?
- Source: James Ashcroft
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Blackballnz (talk) 04:10, 20 April 2025 (UTC).
Brave Bunnies
- ... that European broadcasters waived their rights to Brave Bunnies so that the children's series could be streamed ad-free in Ukrainian for refugees?
- Source: Marian McHugh, Broadcast "Go Jetters helps launch Ukrainian-language YouTube channel", 16 June 2022, ProQuest 2677615627. Quote: "A YouTube channel dedicated to entertaining Ukrainian children displaced by the war is to launch on 1 July [2022] ... offer pre-school and primary school-aged refugee children across the UK and Europe entertainment in their own language and will also house shows from Ukrainian producers, including Brave Bunnies ... The ad-free YouTube channel ... Everyone involved has given up their time and rights to their content for nothing ... It really shows that the creative industries can be a force for good." Also Connie Evans, The Herald (Glasgow) "YouTube's channel for Ukraine", 17 June 2022, ProQuest 2677284195. Quote: "A non-profit YouTube channel created specifically for Ukrainian children displaced by the war is set to launch ... shows by Ukrainian producers with titles such as Brave Bunnies".
- ALT1: ... that weeks after production of Brave Bunnies was suspended due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, its production coordinator had become a war correspondent? Source: Natalia Yermak, New York Times "A Cartoon Producer Turned War Reporter: Times Insider", 1 June 2022, ProQuest 2671841726. Quote: "the day before the Russian invasion began. I was working as a production coordinator at a company that produced a Ukrainian cartoon series for children called "Brave Bunnies." ... The “Brave Bunnies” team decided to put production on hold ... I started collecting and documenting stories as a form of volunteerism; I wanted to help share information about the war. Colleagues and friends connected me with various news media outlets. Soon, I was presented with an opportunity to work with The New York Times. ... About a month after my unexpected last day at "Brave Bunnies," I became a member of a team"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Musalla Complex
Reidgreg (talk) 19:57, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
Lacrateides Relief
- ... that the Lacrateides Relief is a large ancient Greek relief depicting the Eleusinian deities and heroes?
- Source: Papangeli, Kalliope (2002). Eleusis: the archaeological site and the museum (PDF). Athens: Omilos Latsi. p. 243. ISBN 960-86743-2-8.
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Deiadameian (talk) 18:57, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but the hook as currently written may not meet WP:DYKINT as being interesting to a broad, non-specialist audience.
@Deiademian:Can you please propose additional hooks that would be more familiar to general readers either unfamiliar with or only have a basic understanding of Greek mythology? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:03, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Deiadameian: Fixed ping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:03, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Javier Domínguez
- ... that Javier Domínguez (pictured), the current Magic: The Gathering World Champion, likes to play more than he likes to win?
- Source: https://www.magic.gg/news/love-of-the-game-propels-world-champ ""I guess I just like to play Magic more than I like to win," he confessed. "I knew what could happen, but competing and winning was never my biggest motivation. Two weeks after Worlds I made the Top 8 of a Grand Prix, and I was just as excited."
GRuban (talk) 17:54, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:07, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks mostly good. The only thing @GRuban: is that at the end of the article, below the references section, there is a few unsourced paragraphs from what appears to be before the expansion – I assume that was meant to be removed? Let me know and I'll approve this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:40, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ack! Yes you are quite right, they're gone now. Thank you! --GRuban (talk) 05:11, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Strawberry Newspaper
- ... that in a 2015 issue of the Strawberry Newspaper Hello Kitty discussed military conflict in Afghanistan, Somalia, and Ukraine?
- Source: "While next to Hello Kitty, the text states how there are conflicts in Afghanistan, Somalia, Ukraine, and mentions the problem of terrorism. “Even though everyone should want peace, the truth that is that somewhere on Earth, there is a war.”" Hello Kitty Doesn't Want to die in War
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Siawase (talk) 17:17, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
Tan Jin Sing
- ... that Tan Jin Sing was "no longer a Chinese, not yet a Dutchman, a half-baked Javanese"? Source: Carey, P. B. R. (2015). The Power of Prophecy: Prince Dipanagara and the End of an Old Order in Java, 1785-1855. p. 400.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Darko Pešić
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 07:38, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
Trichy assault rifle
- ... that the Trichy assault rifle is named after Ordnance Factory Tiruchirappalli in order to recognize its contribution to developing and manufacturing the rifle?
- ALT1: ... that the Trichy assault rifle was made to reduce dependence on purchasing the Bulgarian AR-M1 under Atmanirbhar Bharat?
- Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240628105509/https://www.indiatoday.in/india-today-insight/story/baby-tar-india-s-smallest-assault-rifle-1762654-2021-01-25
- https://web.archive.org/web/20240430130152/https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Tiruchirapalli/oft-launches-40-x-46-mm-under-barrel-grenade-launcher/article35683036.ece
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Multo (song)
- Comment: Got these two in mind. Don't mind other alternatives.
Ominae (talk) 06:39, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
Tribalistas (2002 album)
- ... that the cover for Tribalistas was created by Vik Muniz, who used chocolate syrup to illustrate the trio after musical strings did not work?
- Source: Video source "Eu fiz todos os retratos do Arnaldo, Brown e da Marisa com cordas, antes. Era para ser uma capa completamente diferente. Eram com cordas de cavaquinho [...] Era todo um desenho baseado em dobrar cordas de aço." --> "I made all the portraits of Arnaldo, Brown, and Marisa with strings, before. It was supposed to be a completely different cover. They were with cavaquinho strings [...] It was all a design based on folding steel strings."
Cattos💭 02:51, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
- The current wording seems to be a bit off since it seems to focus more on Muniz than the chocolate syrup aspect. How does the following reword sound?
- ALT0a ... that Vik Muniz used chocolate syrup to illustrate the cover for Brazilian supergroup Tribalistas' debut album after musical strings did not work?
- ALT0b ... that the cover for Brazilian supergroup Tribalistas' debut album used chocolate syrup to illustrate the trio after an earlier attempt with musical strings did not work?
- ALT0c ... that the cover for Brazilian supergroup Tribalistas' debut album used chocolate syrup to illustrate the trio?
- Admittedly, the first two new options are slightly longer than the original, but they're more intended to put more focus on the chocolate syrup fact than Muniz. Of course, if you prefer the original wording then that's fine. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:09, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 19
[edit]Jean-Mohammed Abd-el-Jalil
- ... that Jean-Mohammed Abd-el-Jalil, a Moroccan Franciscan friar, was permitted by the Pope to keep Muhammad as his baptismal name and had Quran verses on his priestly ordination card?
- Source: Basetti-Sani, Giulio; Verderio, Matteo (2005). Musulmano e Cristiano: La storia del francescano Giovanni-Maometto. Milan: Ancora. p. 54. ISBN 8851402957. "Il papa [Pius XI], come ispirato da Dio, seppe darmi una risposta che merita davvero di essere considerata provvidenziale, oltre che importantissima per tutti coloro che desiderino convertirsi dall'islam alla fede cristiana: « [...] E noi vi autorizziamo a mantenere anche da cristiano il nome di Muhammad. »
- Reviewed:
- Comment: If the page number is needed for the second fact I will supply it—on that, would scanning the picture in the book of said card (from 1935) be fair use?
M.A.Spinn (talk) 02:42, 20 April 2025 (UTC).
Bode Ioiô
- ... that a liquor-drinking celebrity goat named Yoyo won an election for city councilman in Fortaleza? Source: election source[23], "liquor drinking" source[24], name meaning[25]
BuySomeApples (talk) 21:48, 19 April 2025 (UTC).
HNLMS Java (1921)
- ... that when HNLMS Java (pictured) was sunk, her crew struggled to access the ship's life vests because the vests were locked away in a hard to reach compartment?
- Source: "...Captain van Straelen gave the order to abandon ship. Initially there was no panic in the veteran crew of the Java, but that changed because of a very questionable policy; the cruiser’s life vests had been locked in a room. The room had one door, and the rush to get in and out through that one door became a panicked mob." - Page 317, Rising Sun, Falling Skies: The disastrous Java Sea Campaign of World War II by Jeffrey Cox
- Reviewed:
GGOTCC 20:58, 19 April 2025 (UTC).
Trunk (botany)
- ... that in parts of India, North America, and Africa, people marry tree trunks?
- Source: https://doi.org/10.1016%2Fs0378-1127%2802%2900525-x On Page 39
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yaelokre
- Comment: Bit of a tongue in cheek DYK, as "marriage" is purely a spiritual exercise in this context.
Dracophyllum 11:34, 19 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 20
[edit]Dilaw (song)
- ... that "Dilaw" was a dominant song in the Philippines and gained international recognition?
- Source: ABS-CBN, Billboard Philippines
- ALT1: ... that "Dilaw" reached the top spot on Billboard Philippines Hot 100 and Top Philippines Songs chart and entered the Spotify Global Chart at 200? Source: Billboard Philippines
- ALT2: ... that the creator of "Dilaw" Maki is a leading OPM artist with the most listeners on Spotify? Source: ABS-CBN CORPORATE, TRIBUNE
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chocolate in savory cooking
ROY is WAR Talk! 09:43, 20 April 2025 (UTC).
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